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i pledge allegiance to the flag of the

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united states of america and to the

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republic for which it stands one nation

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under god indivisible with liberty and

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justice for all father we do thank you

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for this day

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Amen.

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Amen.

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Amen.

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Amen.

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Amen.

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And there's a process for.

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There is a process for amending the

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agenda.

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All right.

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We have a motion from time to approve

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it as it stands currently.

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Okay.

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To go by the agenda confusing enough.

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Aye.

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All in favor?

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Aye.

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Opposed?

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Aye.

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Tony?

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Opposed?

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Mr. Paul Humphrey?

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No, there.

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Mr. Westmowers?

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Aye.

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That be you.

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That be me.

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Come up and yell.

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I have several questions regarding this

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project and the conditions surrounding it.

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I've been told it is the intent

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used in the BOT contract.

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I understand that the BOT,

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which stands for Build, Operate,

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Transfer process,

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was designed for the traditional use for

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large-scale projects such as the Lewis and

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Clark Bridge.

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This bridge project is easily

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understandable how the contractor assisted

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with construction funding and recouped his

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money through the toll bridge until

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requirements were satisfied,

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at which time total control and ownership

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of said bridge was transferred to the

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government agency.

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It's unclear to me why this contracting

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model is the kind of go-to approach for

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larger construction projects within

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Washington County.

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Applying to the project in question,

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is it the intent of the county for

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the chosen contracting firm to operate at

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least or take possession of the four-h

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building,

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or is it the intent of the county

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to lease the newly constructed four-h

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building from the chosen contractor?

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According to information obtained from the

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Indiana County Commissioners with the ICC,

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the following guidelines must be followed

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using the BOP contract involved.

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For those who are unaware,

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the ICC is a nonprofit organization tasked

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with training, education,

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and advocacy for commissioners throughout

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the state of Indiana.

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When using the BOT contracting model,

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the governmental community must solicit

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proposals to the RFP which must include

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the following.

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Factors and criteria to be used in

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evaluating proposals.

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A statement concerning relative importance

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of price and other factors.

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A statement concerning whether proposals

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must be accompanied by a certified check

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or other evidence of financial

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responsibility.

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The statement concerning earlier

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discussions may be conducted with offerors

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for the purposes of clarification to

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ensure full understanding of and

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responsiveness to the RFP.

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And a notice of the RFP must be

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published two times one week apart with

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the second publication at least seven days

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before the proposal is produced.

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With these requirements in mind,

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I would like clarification on the

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following questions.

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It is apparent the county forage building

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project has been discussed by our county

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commissioners on more than one occasion.

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Did these discussions occur during a

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public meeting or in an executive session

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and are these meeting minutes available to

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the public?

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Number two,

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do construction plans or project scope

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exist for the forage building project?

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If so,

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who develops that plans or scope and are

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they available to the public for project

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bidding purposes?

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Number three,

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have engineering or construction firms

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Number four,

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is it the intent of the Washington County

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Commissioners to solicit or request for a

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proposal via public notice as required by

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Indiana code?

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If so,

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where and when do commissioners intend to

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release said RFP?

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Number five,

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have any county funds been dispersed

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relating to the four-H building

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construction project?

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Number six, and lastly,

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while I understand that demolition and

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reconstruction

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building the size of the four-inch

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building is a large and costly project i'm

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sorry what i do not understand is why

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this project would use the bot contracting

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model it would appear that the

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construction of the single building would

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be better served by the conventional

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paying process

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which a minimum of three bids are taken

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from technically and financially qualified

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bidders,

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where the low bid is the work of

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the contract.

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This would allow for the certainty of a

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quality project while ensuring the best

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use of taxpayer dollars.

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If the commissioners did not want to spend

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the money for the engineering construction

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plans,

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the project could also be done in the

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same manner using the design-build process

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based upon the requirements and scope of

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work developed by the commission.

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I would greatly appreciate the answers and

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clarifications to the questions I've

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posed.

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And I would like to thank the

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commissioners for their time and allowing

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me to speak here today.

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Thank you.

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As of right now, that being oldest,

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I don't know.

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Well, I can answer his questions.

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Put his mind at ease.

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First of all,

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I don't know where you're getting your

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information.

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We are not doing a BOT.

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It's not a good fit.

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For this project,

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we're going to do a design build.

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We will be taking bids beginning about the

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first of April.

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And deadline would be you're going to have

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thirty days to submit your plans and

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that's basically all there is to it.

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for new folks as far as what you...

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Yeah, well, that will be provided.

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Yes.

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Yeah, so it'll be, it'll be, of course,

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we don't have a newspaper, unfortunately,

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anymore.

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I understand we might be getting a

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newspaper again.

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Thank you.

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Which is a good thing.

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So, yeah,

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it will be in every publication that's

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available to us.

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website, all of the above.

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And when did you say you expect them?

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Around about time,

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I'm not holding you to a date.

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Yeah, we're kind of on a timeline.

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So, yeah, around the first of April.

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The one in April or at the drop?

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Yeah, around the first of April.

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We don't have an exact date yet,

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but it will be,

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It'll have to be public notice for thirty

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days.

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That's what I need to mention.

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Again, I apologize.

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I'm going off what I've been heard.

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I would encourage you in the future.

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That's what I was getting ready to say.

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Anytime you'd like, our phone numbers,

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everybody's got our numbers.

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Believe me, they do.

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Any time you want to call any of

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us, if you have any questions,

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I don't care if it's a non-question,

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feel free to call us.

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No, I appreciate that, definitely,

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but I was just looking for the

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clarification.

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Thank you for your time.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Questions?

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Pardon?

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Hi.

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How are you?

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I'm just fine.

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I've got just a few sheets left.

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We'll go ahead and let you just go

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ahead and take one.

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All right, three minutes,

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so this is gonna be quiet.

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David Lyons is not a Democrat,

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never has been.

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Also,

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Laurie Gilstrap voted as a Republican this

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last election.

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So effectively, and we've had an argument,

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I love Adam to death.

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We had a little argument in the way,

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but you know, look,

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Laurie Gilstrap voted as Republican in the

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last primary, and as,

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picture of the agenda before had the plan

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commission putting forward a comprehensive

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plan and i see that it's been taken

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off which is excellent because uh i've

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written down all the laws regarding it

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also as far as like having a ten

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day public information you know open to

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the public for ten days and then having

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the hearing just like with the ordinance

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now uh it can be argued that

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The planning board has been illegal for

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eight years.

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Hundreds of thousands of dollars has been

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spent on this organization that has not

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provided legal hearings,

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has not provided support for the

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community, and been a drain on our public.

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I'd really like you to go ahead and

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dissolve it.

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But if you're not going to dissolve it,

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you may really want to follow the law.

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Because what you're taking on is you're

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dealing with people's property.

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This board can have people's property torn

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down on a whim.

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You're such a drain on our local economy.

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I can't see why you wouldn't shut this

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dumpster fire down.

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But do you have any questions?

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Do you have any questions?

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Bill?

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Not this time.

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All right.

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Are we good?

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Okie dokie.

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Thank you, brother.

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Thank you.

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Adam, number four.

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I'll yield my time for the moment.

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That's me.

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How are you?

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Better than I deserve, actually.

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Well, you look nice.

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You're ready for it.

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It's a bright morning.

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Thank you.

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No snow.

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We're ready to go.

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I've got a nine-year-old dad who's on his

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way out, sadly,

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but every day above ground is a good

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day.

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And I appreciate y'all being here.

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Time to start?

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Awesome.

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Let's see.

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Four score and seven years ago,

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wrong speech.

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We're here to talk about the bundle of

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rights and the attack on citizens with the

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current iteration of the zoning ordinance

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and document.

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People talk about taxation without

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representation.

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Well,

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taxation with representation pretty much

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sucks too.

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We have the right under the Constitution

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to be secure in our property and in

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our papers.

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We have the right to not have an

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unlawful taking of our property.

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which is why we have eminent domain laws

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that require that people be compensated

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fairly.

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Now those of you that passed government in

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high school probably know that fascism is

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defined as the private ownership of your

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property, but with the public control.

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The government has control of your

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property.

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So there's not much reason to own property

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if you're not in control of it,

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and that throws us right into fascism.

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We've had issues on this board.

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As Rhonda just brought up,

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with two people that I was told in

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this board meeting were actually Democrat.

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And when looking at the public records,

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we find out that those two people,

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Ward Gilstrap and David Wells,

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are actually Democrats.

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Our planning board requirements, by law,

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require that at least two of those people

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be of the opposite party.

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That clearly hasn't happened.

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Now,

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I don't know if the young lady in

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front of me, I believe, April,

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Are you an attorney for this?

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Yes.

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Okay, there you go.

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So you told me that you had researched

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this,

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and you reassured me two meetings ago that

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Maury Gilstrap and David Wiles had both

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voted Democrat.

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And I felt kind of personally attacked,

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like you thought that I was lying when

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I said that they were Republicans,

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but the public records clearly show that.

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I know David Wiles personally.

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I texted him and asked him if he

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was Republican or Democrat,

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and he failed to respond to that.

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But I agree with Rhonda that the planning

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board has been illegal for the last eight

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years.

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Todd,

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am I wrong in saying that Andrew Cot

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or Cat is your son-in-law?

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Yes, he is.

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So is that a violation of the Indiana

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net racism laws?

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No,

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because there's no compensation for board

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members.

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Oh,

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so it's okay to get your family voting.

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I mean,

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I can't get my family voting here in

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the county whether I paid it or not.

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So I'll do a little bit more investigation

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on that before I make any accusations.

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That point is moot because due to all

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the

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borderline death threats because of what

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some of this community tried to stir up.

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He resigned from the board.

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Well, I'm sorry to hear that.

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You should have resigned from the board

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much earlier.

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And I think the death threats are

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terrible, obviously.

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That is not nepotism.

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I looked into it before I asked you

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to serve on the board.

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Okay, I'll look into it as well.

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My main concern for the good people of

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Washington County is that there are

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that are normal and ordinary and that you

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would seek to create obstacles or even

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outright prevent people without

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permission.

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Such as me,

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I have a little plant nursery.

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I sell medicinal, edible,

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and culinary plants.

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But other people who might have a barber

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or a beauty shop are going to face

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limitations.

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Auto vehicle sales repair,

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freight trucking, heavy manufacturing,

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restaurants, salvage yards,

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You know, strange things.

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I don't know if any of you have

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Airbnb or Furbos.

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Those seem to be okay according to the

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ordinances.

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While somebody operating your bed and

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breakfast is required to live on site and

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have that as residence.

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And then other restrictions,

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even if they have a commercial kitchen,

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not being able to offer dining service to

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the public,

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but only being able to offer dining

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services to the bed and breakfast.

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So with your comments in between,

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thank you for the little bit of latitude

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since Todd took up so much of my

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time.

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I'm just here to protest and say, hey,

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You know,

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the good citizens of Washington County

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deserve all of the rights that come with

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our property and not to have any of

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those rights separated.

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I don't want to see us as a

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fascist state.

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I escaped Fishers to come here and look

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for freedom.

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This Fishers ain't free,

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but I was hoping Washington County is.

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You're welcome to ask me any questions.

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No, thank you.

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Thanks.

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OK, approval of the minutes.

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Is that February eighteenth or the

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twenty-fifth?

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That's March fourth.

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Say it again.

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March fourth.

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Make a motion.

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I'll make the motion.

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Second.

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Tully has made a motion.

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Todd second.

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All in favor say aye.

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Aye.

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Aye.

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Approval of claims in favor?

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I'll make that motion.

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Second.

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Todd made a motion.

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Tully second.

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All in favor say aye.

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Aye.

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Aye.

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Motion carried.

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Myra?

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How are you this morning?

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I'm good, how are you?

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Good, morning.

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Hi,

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I'm Myra and I'm representing the

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Washington County Community Corrections

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and Washington County Probation Department

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this morning.

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I had presented to you previously before

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this meeting the annual report that was

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prepared for the Washington County

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Community Corrections that was sent to

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Indiana Department of Corrections.

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Do you have any questions?

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I know.

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Questions?

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Do what now?

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Did you have any questions about the

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annual report that you received for the

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Washington County Community Corrections

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prior to this meeting?

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I haven't received it yet.

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You should have had it on your email.

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That's what I said.

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Email don't get sent to me.

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I've been nice about this shit and now

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I'm getting mad about it.

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I can't do my job,

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but people supposed to do their job in

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front of me.

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Sorry.

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No,

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I looked at it and we're in good

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hands.

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Myra does a great job and looks good

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to me.

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So the other thing I'm here today for,

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as you're aware,

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the Washington County Community

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Corrections operates by grant from the

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Department of Corrections.

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and it is time to apply for the

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twenty-twenty-six Department of

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Corrections grant.

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I'm also working on applying for a grant

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from the Indiana Office of Court Services

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to run our South Central Indiana Veterans

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Treatment Court, Washington County.

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That has been running for quite a few

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years as well.

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So I'm here today to request your support

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for my applying for these two groups.

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May I have that letter please?

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i'll make a motion that we accept the

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grant proposals that myra has submitted

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second time mr carmel this was sent to

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you on march eleventh you want to double

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check your email okay thank you all favors

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say aye aye aye

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Good morning.

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How are you?

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Appreciate the opportunity to talk with

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you this morning about public safety

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concerns that I have regarding a

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communications tower that we have here

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some of the information regarding this

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communication tower that sets out east of

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Salem and sets on private property.

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There are three guy wires that come off

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the communication tower that also are

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grounded on private property.

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We were contacted a couple of years ago

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by ECS who is our radio company that

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takes care of our maintenance of our tower

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and our equipment that

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We needed to look into some maintenance

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issues on the tower.

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Several of those maintenance issues have

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already been addressed and been corrected.

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One issue that remains that we have not

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been able to successfully get corrected is

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the trimming of trees that are in close

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proximity to this tower.

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The tower has been there for a number

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of years.

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It's been neglected.

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I have begun well over a year ago

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in talking to the property owners

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that are involved in this to see if

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we could get this situation taken care of.

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I've not had a whole lot of luck

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in dealing with the landowners to get this

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taken care of.

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That's when I contacted a couple of the

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commissioners.

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And I do appreciate the efforts that you

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guys have put into this and trying to

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get this taken care of.

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There are currently quite a few projects

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going on in the county.

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There's going to continue to be those

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projects going on.

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Public safety has to be a top priority

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for everyone.

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With every passing season,

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I keep wondering about this tower and

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whether something or not is going to

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happen to this tower.

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In the wintertime,

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we worry about freezing rain causing limbs

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to fall out of trees and potentially do

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damage to a guide wire or the tower.

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As of today,

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the National Weather Service confirmed

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that there were ten tornadoes in the state

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of Indiana this past weekend.

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Our EMA director posted this morning that

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we were going to have another wind

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advisory tomorrow,

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and with every passing day,

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we don't know what could or could not

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happen to this tower,

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and it needs to be addressed in a

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very timely manner.

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We as elected officials, including myself,

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must make this a top priority and do

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more to bring our citizens to the table

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to work this out sooner than later.

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We can't allow the situation to sit idle.

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At any moment,

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something can take out the communication

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tower.

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And not only is the equipment on that

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tower supporting Washington County

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emergency services,

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but it also supports part of Scott County

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with eight on radio service.

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wouldn't want to affect our neighbors in

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Scott County as well.

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Again,

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I'm going to say I appreciate the effort

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that Commissioner Marshall and

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Commissioner Ewan has put forth at this

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point.

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We simply haven't been able to resolve

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this public safety issue where every

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second of every minute is important.

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If a citizen is having a heart attack

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or stroke, every minute counts.

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If a citizen has a house fire,

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every minute counts.

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If a citizen is having a physical

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domestic,

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it requires a police every minute counts.

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Police, fire,

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and EMS rely on radio communications to

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respond to emergencies of our citizens,

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and we cannot allow this to sit on

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the back burner until something

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catastrophic happens.

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I come to you today and ask that

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we all work together to resolve the public

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safety issue before it's too late.

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Not one person sitting here today wants to

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see something happen over communications.

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Tired could be a major delay of emergency

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services to our citizens.

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We all say public safety is a top

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priority from Washington County.

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And actually speak louder than words.

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I'm asking that the Board of Commissioners

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to take the appropriate actions necessary

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to bring those to the table to resolve

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this issue so that we can get this

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taken care of in a timely manner.

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In all honesty, Britt,

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not bypassing anything,

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we had been working on it.

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This contract, when trees were small,

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this was first done,

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we didn't have a problem.

00:24:52.086 --> 00:24:53.846
You don't only sweat, we sweat.

00:24:54.426 --> 00:24:55.567
We don't want it to happen.

00:24:56.607 --> 00:24:59.248
We've got a couple owners of ground

00:24:59.268 --> 00:25:01.808
surrounding and kind of got our hands

00:25:01.828 --> 00:25:02.328
tied.

00:25:02.808 --> 00:25:05.809
This contract really needs to be re-looked

00:25:05.829 --> 00:25:06.450
at and redone.

00:25:07.438 --> 00:25:17.041
I know when this first started out.

00:25:17.122 --> 00:25:19.643
Here we started developing problems.

00:25:20.522 --> 00:25:22.304
Now getting somebody and Todd's been

00:25:22.324 --> 00:25:23.564
working on that with.

00:25:24.564 --> 00:25:25.484
Timber cutter.

00:25:26.964 --> 00:25:27.445
We've got.

00:25:27.605 --> 00:25:32.968
Stop really compliant.

00:25:33.008 --> 00:25:34.188
We're working on that.

00:25:37.381 --> 00:25:39.082
Trust me, we're not dropping this.

00:25:39.142 --> 00:25:40.541
This comes up every week.

00:25:41.321 --> 00:25:43.742
And we've instructed April to look it over

00:25:44.482 --> 00:25:46.243
and try to get it going as fast

00:25:46.263 --> 00:25:46.943
as we can.

00:25:47.304 --> 00:25:48.384
That's a poor excuse,

00:25:49.164 --> 00:25:50.144
but it's the damn truth.

00:25:52.125 --> 00:25:54.046
We have an agreement with the northern

00:25:54.246 --> 00:25:55.205
property owner.

00:25:55.465 --> 00:25:56.946
I spoke with you yesterday.

00:25:57.047 --> 00:25:58.886
I know you understand this.

00:25:59.008 --> 00:26:00.327
Everybody else doesn't because they

00:26:00.387 --> 00:26:00.887
haven't heard it.

00:26:00.907 --> 00:26:02.548
But I have an agreement,

00:26:03.409 --> 00:26:04.848
a verbal agreement right now,

00:26:04.888 --> 00:26:06.589
which April is working on getting it

00:26:06.609 --> 00:26:07.069
written out.

00:26:08.497 --> 00:26:11.077
which naturally has to precede anybody

00:26:11.117 --> 00:26:13.817
going on his property in the form of

00:26:13.877 --> 00:26:14.518
an easement.

00:26:15.397 --> 00:26:17.538
The old easement was not adequate.

00:26:17.759 --> 00:26:20.239
It did not address enough of an area

00:26:20.259 --> 00:26:23.599
for us to allow us to have access

00:26:24.220 --> 00:26:26.000
to keeping these trees down.

00:26:26.079 --> 00:26:27.759
These trees grow fast.

00:26:27.859 --> 00:26:30.161
We got about a dozen that need to

00:26:30.181 --> 00:26:34.382
come down and I honestly think that that

00:26:34.402 --> 00:26:36.102
will happen in the next two to three

00:26:36.142 --> 00:26:37.041
weeks because

00:26:37.618 --> 00:26:39.140
There is a sense of urgency.

00:26:39.881 --> 00:26:42.281
The property owner to the south is another

00:26:42.343 --> 00:26:42.883
matter.

00:26:43.222 --> 00:26:45.845
You and I also spoke about that.

00:26:47.145 --> 00:26:49.428
He seems to understand the urgency,

00:26:49.988 --> 00:26:52.509
but I guess we've not been forceful

00:26:52.549 --> 00:26:52.930
enough.

00:26:52.950 --> 00:26:56.432
I don't want to get attorneys or a

00:26:56.492 --> 00:26:58.413
judge involved, but if it comes to that,

00:26:58.473 --> 00:27:01.537
we will, because if that tower goes down,

00:27:02.257 --> 00:27:04.138
someone could lose their life.

00:27:04.378 --> 00:27:05.500
We're all aware of that,

00:27:06.059 --> 00:27:07.000
and he is aware of it.

00:27:09.122 --> 00:27:11.983
But once again, just what you said,

00:27:13.105 --> 00:27:13.404
you know,

00:27:13.885 --> 00:27:16.647
actions are louder than words and not

00:27:16.688 --> 00:27:18.730
getting any action out of him yet,

00:27:18.750 --> 00:27:23.613
but hopefully he'll come around.

00:27:23.653 --> 00:27:24.913
With all that being said,

00:27:25.674 --> 00:27:26.695
permission to these two,

00:27:26.736 --> 00:27:28.297
would you care to take me out there

00:27:28.376 --> 00:27:31.859
and we can talk to the other gentleman

00:27:32.000 --> 00:27:32.640
over this?

00:27:32.861 --> 00:27:35.122
See if we can get this done in

00:27:35.182 --> 00:27:37.084
a quick fashion

00:27:38.952 --> 00:27:40.473
I'm going to be honest with you,

00:27:40.733 --> 00:27:41.834
I'm not sure that that's going to take

00:27:41.854 --> 00:27:42.114
care of it.

00:27:42.134 --> 00:27:43.614
I know that they have been making

00:27:43.653 --> 00:27:46.815
conversations with them and I'll say that

00:27:46.835 --> 00:27:48.255
some progress has been made and I

00:27:48.435 --> 00:27:50.496
appreciate that.

00:27:50.596 --> 00:27:53.057
You can take me back there.

00:27:53.076 --> 00:27:54.257
We don't have to.

00:27:54.596 --> 00:27:55.836
With a map on here,

00:27:56.176 --> 00:27:58.637
we are restricted on where we trespass.

00:27:59.917 --> 00:28:01.558
And I realize we've got license.

00:28:01.598 --> 00:28:03.199
There's other things that come into play

00:28:03.239 --> 00:28:03.499
here.

00:28:04.278 --> 00:28:05.880
And that's what we're trying to go legal

00:28:05.900 --> 00:28:07.440
to keep us out of lawsuits.

00:28:08.310 --> 00:28:11.954
And we do squint every storm that comes

00:28:12.055 --> 00:28:12.234
up.

00:28:12.454 --> 00:28:16.739
The southern property owner has told me he

00:28:16.838 --> 00:28:19.642
is working on getting us a price to

00:28:19.662 --> 00:28:20.462
clear that off.

00:28:21.343 --> 00:28:23.365
And I'm basically waiting on him to give

00:28:23.444 --> 00:28:24.967
us a number so we know what it's

00:28:25.007 --> 00:28:27.910
going to cost to take these trees out.

00:28:28.589 --> 00:28:29.651
We've got the money for it.

00:28:29.691 --> 00:28:30.451
That's not the problem.

00:28:30.491 --> 00:28:31.673
It's getting him to move.

00:28:32.054 --> 00:28:33.255
That's our pride.

00:28:34.167 --> 00:28:35.470
well aware of that and i again i

00:28:35.490 --> 00:28:37.471
appreciate your efforts i just i know that

00:28:37.652 --> 00:28:40.213
i i did not have any luck trying

00:28:40.253 --> 00:28:42.195
myself to get this resolved that's why i

00:28:42.215 --> 00:28:43.978
turn to you guys to get you involved

00:28:43.998 --> 00:28:46.740
to try to move this along a little

00:28:46.780 --> 00:28:48.142
quicker to try to get it done in

00:28:48.162 --> 00:28:50.585
a timely manner it's not i've been working

00:28:50.625 --> 00:28:51.566
on it well over a year and i'm

00:28:51.586 --> 00:28:53.227
not making any progress on it myself and

00:28:53.247 --> 00:28:55.990
time is important we're not making much

00:28:56.109 --> 00:28:57.751
better progress to be quite honest with

00:28:57.771 --> 00:28:57.832
you

00:28:58.843 --> 00:29:00.282
We did talk to the state at one

00:29:00.343 --> 00:29:00.604
time.

00:29:00.663 --> 00:29:02.384
The state's tried to buy up some towers,

00:29:03.064 --> 00:29:04.805
but the state don't want no involvement

00:29:04.865 --> 00:29:06.826
with it because of the condition right

00:29:06.865 --> 00:29:07.026
now.

00:29:07.046 --> 00:29:08.586
If we can get it cleaned out,

00:29:08.605 --> 00:29:10.086
hopefully we can go ahead and proceed with

00:29:10.106 --> 00:29:10.846
what you said.

00:29:14.607 --> 00:29:15.188
The state.

00:29:18.009 --> 00:29:20.289
Trust me, we are working on it.

00:29:20.329 --> 00:29:22.450
It's a poor excuse,

00:29:22.470 --> 00:29:23.550
but that's the best I can do.

00:29:24.671 --> 00:29:25.631
I appreciate your time.

00:29:26.192 --> 00:29:26.551
Thank you.

00:29:26.652 --> 00:29:27.172
Thank you.

00:29:38.922 --> 00:29:41.143
Reading two point old project late

00:29:41.182 --> 00:29:41.663
paragraphs.

00:29:43.103 --> 00:29:43.483
Yeah.

00:29:45.763 --> 00:29:48.065
The Washington County Economic Growth

00:29:48.105 --> 00:29:52.487
Partnership director, Angie Buchanan,

00:29:52.567 --> 00:29:57.288
who had started the fairgrounds project as

00:29:57.327 --> 00:30:04.050
a project lead to basically facilitate the

00:30:04.250 --> 00:30:07.271
grant money we're receiving for the new

00:30:09.596 --> 00:30:11.836
community building extension office at the

00:30:11.915 --> 00:30:15.238
fairgrounds she resigned a couple weeks

00:30:15.298 --> 00:30:17.778
ago that kind of put us in a

00:30:17.818 --> 00:30:20.640
little bit of a bind because she had

00:30:20.660 --> 00:30:23.780
hit the ground running and was moving

00:30:23.820 --> 00:30:27.041
forward with this so we were going to

00:30:27.102 --> 00:30:29.942
have to have someone else to be the

00:30:30.002 --> 00:30:32.284
lead on this project because there are a

00:30:32.304 --> 00:30:35.684
lot of hoops to jump through anytime you

00:30:36.481 --> 00:30:38.323
Anytime you do a grant there's a lot

00:30:38.343 --> 00:30:42.324
of paperwork and she has agreed to do

00:30:42.384 --> 00:30:46.226
it on the side as a separate contract

00:30:46.665 --> 00:30:48.906
since she is no longer a county employee.

00:30:49.547 --> 00:30:54.249
The contract amount is fifty one hundred

00:30:54.288 --> 00:30:58.609
dollars and it will last through the whole

00:30:58.650 --> 00:31:02.652
process of the four H extension building

00:31:02.711 --> 00:31:05.133
project which

00:31:06.484 --> 00:31:14.410
would start after the fair this year.

00:31:14.430 --> 00:31:15.150
This time,

00:31:16.971 --> 00:31:18.791
I would ask for a motion to approve

00:31:18.811 --> 00:31:25.957
her contract to be the lead on this.

00:31:26.096 --> 00:31:27.057
What's this?

00:31:27.096 --> 00:31:28.397
This is her contract.

00:31:28.417 --> 00:31:29.999
I'll make a motion.

00:31:30.239 --> 00:31:33.000
Okay.

00:31:33.020 --> 00:31:36.282
I'll second it.

00:31:40.964 --> 00:31:45.185
I don't know what I'm about to tell

00:31:45.246 --> 00:31:45.746
you, Blake.

00:31:45.846 --> 00:31:57.788
If the project on Reddit two point O

00:31:57.827 --> 00:31:59.928
comes into play,

00:32:00.028 --> 00:32:01.568
it's somebody that's going to oversee the

00:32:03.788 --> 00:32:04.328
process.

00:32:04.528 --> 00:32:04.929
Right.

00:32:05.009 --> 00:32:09.089
And that's about all I got to say

00:32:09.170 --> 00:32:09.450
on that.

00:32:18.930 --> 00:32:23.074
You want to add anything?

00:32:23.094 --> 00:32:26.977
I don't know what else I can say.

00:32:26.997 --> 00:32:29.138
As of right now, that's about it.

00:32:29.219 --> 00:32:30.460
You might ask Chris Fordyce,

00:32:30.480 --> 00:32:32.342
our RDA appointee,

00:32:32.402 --> 00:32:34.983
if he has anything he'd like to add

00:32:35.023 --> 00:32:40.828
about the forage project or any updates

00:32:41.229 --> 00:32:42.730
that would relate to this maybe.

00:32:42.750 --> 00:32:44.011
Do you have anything, Chris?

00:32:44.987 --> 00:32:47.269
The only update I can give you for

00:32:47.288 --> 00:32:48.390
Ready II money,

00:32:49.150 --> 00:32:52.853
before any of it can be spent from

00:32:52.873 --> 00:32:53.673
the state,

00:32:54.473 --> 00:32:56.276
the Ready I money had to be,

00:32:57.135 --> 00:32:59.397
our threshold was sixty-five percent.

00:33:00.318 --> 00:33:05.321
We met that last week.

00:33:05.362 --> 00:33:10.965
So now, as these projects move forward,

00:33:11.227 --> 00:33:13.028
they could be invoices submitted.

00:33:14.288 --> 00:33:16.789
And reimbursements can be made now.

00:33:17.069 --> 00:33:18.530
So that was a good part there.

00:33:18.550 --> 00:33:19.250
So that way,

00:33:19.672 --> 00:33:22.153
a lot of these things can get started.

00:33:22.633 --> 00:33:24.173
Chris, could I ask you,

00:33:25.075 --> 00:33:27.096
for people who don't know,

00:33:27.115 --> 00:33:28.517
Ready two point O,

00:33:29.678 --> 00:33:32.259
the money coming from Ready two point O

00:33:33.359 --> 00:33:35.381
to Orson County, how much is that?

00:33:38.262 --> 00:33:39.462
You mean the total amount?

00:33:39.482 --> 00:33:39.644
Yeah,

00:33:39.743 --> 00:33:41.664
the total amount we'll receive for a

00:33:41.684 --> 00:33:43.586
benefit to the county on progress.

00:33:45.125 --> 00:33:48.547
It was, I'm ashamed to tell you,

00:33:48.586 --> 00:33:50.446
but it's like seven point eight million.

00:33:50.906 --> 00:33:52.707
It's almost eight million dollars coming

00:33:52.727 --> 00:33:53.307
to the county.

00:33:53.748 --> 00:33:55.847
I know about twenty years ago,

00:33:55.887 --> 00:33:56.928
fifteen years ago,

00:33:56.988 --> 00:33:58.689
everything went to northern Indiana.

00:33:58.729 --> 00:34:00.929
Southern Indiana didn't receive very much.

00:34:01.709 --> 00:34:04.849
And with Ready, when Ready come into play,

00:34:05.450 --> 00:34:07.690
southern Indiana did start benefiting out

00:34:07.710 --> 00:34:09.811
of some money coming to southern Indiana.

00:34:09.990 --> 00:34:10.550
That's correct.

00:34:11.572 --> 00:34:12.914
Redding, one point O,

00:34:13.014 --> 00:34:14.394
did give us a pretty good shot in

00:34:14.414 --> 00:34:14.974
the arm.

00:34:15.835 --> 00:34:17.056
That's like Community Cross,

00:34:17.235 --> 00:34:18.336
they gave us a shot in the arm,

00:34:18.356 --> 00:34:19.516
we didn't use it again.

00:34:20.398 --> 00:34:20.818
I mean,

00:34:20.858 --> 00:34:22.458
we have the same problem as Northern

00:34:22.539 --> 00:34:23.518
Indiana's got.

00:34:24.280 --> 00:34:25.900
And this has finally given Southern

00:34:25.981 --> 00:34:29.902
Indiana a chance to benefit from the

00:34:29.922 --> 00:34:30.362
state.

00:34:31.202 --> 00:34:32.643
And Redding, two point O,

00:34:33.945 --> 00:34:36.885
through the four H benefit, the kids,

00:34:37.706 --> 00:34:39.288
we've got the same kids as they've got

00:34:39.307 --> 00:34:39.748
up there.

00:34:42.891 --> 00:34:45.572
and i commend you on your work to

00:34:45.592 --> 00:34:48.773
help the county out and it's crazy not

00:34:48.793 --> 00:34:53.635
to take advantage of this excuse me well

00:34:53.655 --> 00:34:56.817
i certainly think you know the the rda

00:34:56.836 --> 00:35:00.077
which was the five counties we received

00:35:00.137 --> 00:35:02.918
forty two and a half million dollars and

00:35:02.958 --> 00:35:04.360
so i think we've done a good job

00:35:04.420 --> 00:35:05.400
of spreading it out

00:35:06.001 --> 00:35:07.101
as equal as we could.

00:35:07.240 --> 00:35:10.762
I mean, it wasn't equal dollar for dollar,

00:35:10.802 --> 00:35:11.842
but it was awful close.

00:35:12.942 --> 00:35:14.623
So I take pride in that.

00:35:15.103 --> 00:35:16.742
And I think there's some very viable

00:35:16.782 --> 00:35:19.003
projects and four-H filling being one of

00:35:19.264 --> 00:35:19.344
them.

00:35:19.364 --> 00:35:21.943
I think it's good not only for four-H

00:35:21.963 --> 00:35:22.523
kids,

00:35:22.543 --> 00:35:25.505
it's good for a community center that I

00:35:25.545 --> 00:35:26.405
feel like is needed.

00:35:27.125 --> 00:35:30.646
And so needless to say,

00:35:30.726 --> 00:35:32.766
it continues on and gets taken care of.

00:35:32.827 --> 00:35:34.626
It's something we can all be proud of.

00:35:38.568 --> 00:35:41.150
Thank you.

00:35:41.170 --> 00:35:45.371
So with that motion, let's pass.

00:35:45.632 --> 00:35:46.193
All right.

00:35:46.213 --> 00:35:47.534
Mr. Engler?

00:35:47.554 --> 00:35:48.673
You, Greg, want to come up?

00:35:48.775 --> 00:35:50.215
Do you need a bodyguard?

00:35:50.416 --> 00:35:50.655
Maybe.

00:35:50.675 --> 00:35:50.916
Maybe.

00:35:57.447 --> 00:36:00.291
We've got a date out at the highway

00:36:00.311 --> 00:36:04.094
garage office building.

00:36:04.235 --> 00:36:06.338
I've had Ronnie Wolf come out and inspect.

00:36:06.378 --> 00:36:09.021
I think he came out on Thursday.

00:36:09.101 --> 00:36:10.762
Did all the rough-in inspection.

00:36:10.963 --> 00:36:11.943
Liked all that.

00:36:12.364 --> 00:36:14.347
Basically told me I'm ready to go.

00:36:14.927 --> 00:36:16.248
except i do have to do a little

00:36:16.268 --> 00:36:18.969
bit of bracing that he required uh he

00:36:18.989 --> 00:36:21.190
saw some bracing needs in there and i

00:36:21.210 --> 00:36:23.112
got to build a wall that rick and

00:36:23.251 --> 00:36:25.893
i went over for uh i guess the

00:36:25.994 --> 00:36:28.514
it closet so uh once that gets done

00:36:28.534 --> 00:36:31.777
we'll be able to insulate and proceed with

00:36:31.856 --> 00:36:33.717
some of the other finishes on the office

00:36:34.599 --> 00:36:40.121
ronnie also has a inspected design shed

00:36:40.623 --> 00:36:42.784
the big lean tube they're ready for

00:36:42.804 --> 00:36:43.244
electric

00:36:46.099 --> 00:36:48.039
Rick and I and Mr.

00:36:48.059 --> 00:36:49.661
Carbo are out here at the end of

00:36:49.681 --> 00:36:51.882
the day kind of going with the electric,

00:36:51.902 --> 00:36:53.742
kind of discussing the electric with the

00:36:53.782 --> 00:36:54.563
electrician.

00:36:55.023 --> 00:36:57.204
I'm supposed to be in tomorrow to get

00:36:58.844 --> 00:37:01.447
the final, hey, this is what we want.

00:37:01.467 --> 00:37:04.047
I think that'll just continue on.

00:37:04.788 --> 00:37:07.128
The sign shed has the doors up,

00:37:07.168 --> 00:37:09.289
got another secure building out there now.

00:37:09.309 --> 00:37:13.632
So that's pretty comforting, I guess,

00:37:14.213 --> 00:37:14.552
for that.

00:37:16.052 --> 00:37:17.293
The mechanics garage,

00:37:17.353 --> 00:37:19.313
I think we have worked through our two

00:37:19.414 --> 00:37:22.856
issues with the state fire marshal.

00:37:23.235 --> 00:37:27.159
We do have to resubmit on the firewall

00:37:27.259 --> 00:37:30.340
and also what we're doing with what they

00:37:30.820 --> 00:37:32.481
consider hazardous materials,

00:37:32.501 --> 00:37:33.643
the oils and stuff.

00:37:34.023 --> 00:37:36.023
We'll get that submitted here just

00:37:36.184 --> 00:37:36.704
shortly.

00:37:37.724 --> 00:37:41.887
The septic system out there and the mixed

00:37:41.947 --> 00:37:44.188
salt storage building will be submitted

00:37:44.208 --> 00:37:44.568
today.

00:37:46.340 --> 00:37:48.920
foundations that my understanding that

00:37:48.960 --> 00:37:51.402
because they are unoccupied buildings um

00:37:51.422 --> 00:37:53.342
the local inspector which will be running

00:37:53.382 --> 00:37:55.262
will have the final say on on that

00:37:55.302 --> 00:38:02.806
design um ability to talk to duke energy

00:38:03.286 --> 00:38:05.547
they want to upgrade that road a little

00:38:05.567 --> 00:38:09.608
bit for their easement work which we will

00:38:09.628 --> 00:38:11.269
do this week

00:38:12.731 --> 00:38:15.092
We also talked to Midwest Gas about

00:38:15.132 --> 00:38:16.353
bringing the line down from

00:38:16.434 --> 00:38:17.594
one-thirty-five.

00:38:17.695 --> 00:38:22.958
The guy bore all them driveways there with

00:38:23.099 --> 00:38:23.880
Corey Baker,

00:38:24.099 --> 00:38:25.760
but he's finishing up his work with

00:38:25.780 --> 00:38:28.443
Jackson County RMC bringing the fiber

00:38:28.503 --> 00:38:29.244
optic over.

00:38:29.324 --> 00:38:30.625
So as soon as he's available,

00:38:30.724 --> 00:38:34.047
we'll start punching all them driveways to

00:38:34.347 --> 00:38:36.509
allow Midwest Gas to just go overhand for

00:38:36.548 --> 00:38:36.869
a moment.

00:38:36.889 --> 00:38:39.150
Have they run that mark?

00:38:40.831 --> 00:38:43.094
i remember uh jackson county i think they

00:38:43.134 --> 00:38:45.375
were working on it last week when i

00:38:45.394 --> 00:38:47.456
saw them out there i don't know if

00:38:47.476 --> 00:38:50.197
they've finished yet okay i will i will

00:38:50.217 --> 00:38:51.898
get with uh you gave me the contact

00:38:51.918 --> 00:38:57.583
yeah we'll get with him now okay that's

00:38:58.603 --> 00:39:00.684
the highlights so are you ready to start

00:39:00.704 --> 00:39:02.746
bone and grass i'm ready to start bone

00:39:02.766 --> 00:39:06.208
and grass maybe where the septic goes but

00:39:06.228 --> 00:39:06.768
that's about it

00:39:10.478 --> 00:39:11.657
Everything looking all right out there,

00:39:11.697 --> 00:39:11.998
Rick?

00:39:12.418 --> 00:39:12.717
Yep.

00:39:12.858 --> 00:39:14.818
Coming along pretty well.

00:39:15.018 --> 00:39:16.059
All right.

00:39:16.079 --> 00:39:17.998
What do you think?

00:39:18.018 --> 00:39:21.239
All right.

00:39:21.320 --> 00:39:22.159
Coming along.

00:39:22.219 --> 00:39:22.940
Appreciate it, Paul.

00:39:22.960 --> 00:39:25.621
Thank you.

00:39:25.641 --> 00:39:26.561
Thank you.

00:39:26.581 --> 00:39:30.121
Mr. Boyles.

00:39:30.141 --> 00:39:31.742
We didn't stay around you either, did we?

00:39:31.802 --> 00:39:32.322
No.

00:39:32.481 --> 00:39:37.483
Got a few updates for you here.

00:39:37.503 --> 00:39:38.103
Nothing much.

00:39:39.630 --> 00:39:41.411
A little windstorm over the weekend.

00:39:42.253 --> 00:39:44.635
Guys cleaned up approximately forty trees.

00:39:44.875 --> 00:39:45.996
Repaired pretty well.

00:39:46.356 --> 00:39:47.717
Surrounding counties, I think,

00:39:47.737 --> 00:39:48.898
had a little worse than us.

00:39:49.117 --> 00:39:50.318
No complaints there.

00:39:50.998 --> 00:39:53.460
Bridge one eighteen on Shorts Corner is

00:39:53.521 --> 00:39:55.161
finally paved and open to the public.

00:39:55.663 --> 00:39:57.063
There's a little settling there on the

00:39:57.103 --> 00:39:58.545
northwest corner we're going to keep an

00:39:58.565 --> 00:39:58.784
eye on.

00:39:58.804 --> 00:40:00.465
They have to do a little spot paving

00:40:00.505 --> 00:40:01.146
later this spring.

00:40:01.166 --> 00:40:04.128
I think the cat's out of the bag.

00:40:04.704 --> 00:40:05.724
Community Crossings,

00:40:05.884 --> 00:40:07.204
form twenty-five dash one,

00:40:07.224 --> 00:40:08.826
we did receive a one point five million

00:40:08.846 --> 00:40:09.286
dollar grant.

00:40:09.346 --> 00:40:11.967
When we started getting that about six,

00:40:12.007 --> 00:40:12.766
seven years ago,

00:40:12.847 --> 00:40:13.568
it was a pretty big deal,

00:40:13.608 --> 00:40:14.588
and now we just kind of take it

00:40:14.628 --> 00:40:15.047
for granted,

00:40:15.068 --> 00:40:16.369
but it's still a very big deal.

00:40:17.628 --> 00:40:18.809
Here's a copy of the roads that are

00:40:18.829 --> 00:40:19.289
included on that.

00:40:19.309 --> 00:40:23.170
I think I handed one of these out

00:40:23.190 --> 00:40:25.692
to you when we submitted our application,

00:40:25.711 --> 00:40:28.634
but you may have misplaced it since then.

00:40:28.653 --> 00:40:31.295
Thank you.

00:40:31.355 --> 00:40:31.795
Thank you, sir.

00:40:37.407 --> 00:40:40.530
Regular county paving will begin the first

00:40:40.590 --> 00:40:42.150
of June, not necessarily June first,

00:40:42.170 --> 00:40:44.032
but the first of Monday in June.

00:40:44.833 --> 00:40:45.632
Community crossings,

00:40:45.713 --> 00:40:46.773
I can't tell you when that'll start,

00:40:46.793 --> 00:40:48.135
that'll be up to the contractor.

00:40:48.994 --> 00:40:50.315
We're fixing up our ditching,

00:40:50.416 --> 00:40:51.155
all our road prep,

00:40:51.175 --> 00:40:54.458
getting everything ready for paving.

00:40:54.498 --> 00:40:59.721
Is that all the news I got for

00:40:59.740 --> 00:40:59.981
you?

00:41:00.001 --> 00:41:00.902
I have to talk to you.

00:41:00.922 --> 00:41:02.483
Down there on the short corner road at

00:41:02.943 --> 00:41:03.704
Martinsburg Road,

00:41:04.443 --> 00:41:06.362
At an intersection at Mount Horsham

00:41:06.382 --> 00:41:06.943
Cemetery?

00:41:06.963 --> 00:41:07.963
Just waiting on the weather.

00:41:08.103 --> 00:41:09.224
Is that what it is?

00:41:09.463 --> 00:41:11.644
Did they move the electric poles for you?

00:41:11.664 --> 00:41:12.304
Not yet,

00:41:12.385 --> 00:41:13.985
but they're supposed to be in the process.

00:41:14.005 --> 00:41:15.824
They're waiting on the weather, too.

00:41:15.844 --> 00:41:20.106
Couldn't get equipment on the inside.

00:41:20.585 --> 00:41:21.666
Okay.

00:41:22.126 --> 00:41:23.586
And, uh... Pardon?

00:41:23.606 --> 00:41:24.027
Pardon?

00:41:24.106 --> 00:41:25.947
Uh, all I was talking about?

00:41:25.967 --> 00:41:26.128
Yeah.

00:41:26.188 --> 00:41:27.867
I'll do a picture of that if you'd

00:41:27.907 --> 00:41:28.668
like to see it.

00:41:28.688 --> 00:41:30.047
Well, the whole of the measurements.

00:41:30.088 --> 00:41:32.268
We've got a complaint.

00:41:34.052 --> 00:41:35.614
A hole fell in the lady's yard.

00:41:35.653 --> 00:41:36.114
As you know,

00:41:36.134 --> 00:41:37.335
we're kind of learning as we go to

00:41:37.375 --> 00:41:37.956
Cartersburg.

00:41:37.976 --> 00:41:40.858
It's different than our normal day-to-day

00:41:40.878 --> 00:41:41.478
operations.

00:41:51.606 --> 00:41:53.507
Had a call from the lady and a

00:41:53.547 --> 00:41:54.987
hole had appeared in the yard.

00:41:55.668 --> 00:41:57.730
So after investigating it,

00:41:58.990 --> 00:42:00.871
It's an old storm drain, you know,

00:42:00.891 --> 00:42:01.711
metal culvert,

00:42:01.731 --> 00:42:03.072
but it runs the entire length of your

00:42:03.092 --> 00:42:03.393
yard.

00:42:03.413 --> 00:42:05.293
It's about a hundred and sixty-five feet

00:42:05.353 --> 00:42:06.994
from Run Fifty to Bearcat Street.

00:42:07.795 --> 00:42:08.175
And it's,

00:42:08.275 --> 00:42:09.516
you can shove your thumb through it

00:42:09.536 --> 00:42:10.695
anywhere, it's just gone.

00:42:11.436 --> 00:42:13.297
So we need to be deciding if we're

00:42:13.317 --> 00:42:14.378
going to take care of that or if

00:42:14.458 --> 00:42:16.259
Ardenburg is going to take itself over.

00:42:16.838 --> 00:42:18.340
This is just one of many examples of

00:42:18.360 --> 00:42:19.300
what we're going to get into.

00:42:20.199 --> 00:42:21.981
But right now,

00:42:22.340 --> 00:42:24.282
I do not believe we have a right-of-way

00:42:24.302 --> 00:42:25.742
because we haven't adopted the roads.

00:42:26.632 --> 00:42:28.273
So that's something we can decide and I'll

00:42:28.293 --> 00:42:29.614
look for guidance from you all in your

00:42:29.634 --> 00:42:30.574
opinion on that.

00:42:31.114 --> 00:42:35.876
What's the estimated cost on that repair

00:42:35.896 --> 00:42:36.336
of that?

00:42:36.896 --> 00:42:38.797
Best I can figure without getting in there

00:42:38.818 --> 00:42:39.077
digging,

00:42:39.097 --> 00:42:40.219
it looks like it's going to be around

00:42:40.278 --> 00:42:40.659
seven,

00:42:40.898 --> 00:42:42.139
seventy five hundred dollars roughly.

00:42:43.460 --> 00:42:45.681
So let me ask you,

00:42:45.701 --> 00:42:47.442
with this business that you know this

00:42:47.541 --> 00:42:47.641
area.

00:42:47.661 --> 00:42:47.882
Yep.

00:42:47.961 --> 00:42:48.942
With this sewer when it is,

00:42:49.041 --> 00:42:51.503
how many of these are we going to

00:42:51.543 --> 00:42:51.983
have there?

00:42:52.003 --> 00:42:52.884
I have no idea.

00:42:52.943 --> 00:42:55.144
I mean are they all going in about

00:42:55.164 --> 00:42:55.784
the same time?

00:42:57.177 --> 00:42:58.458
I don't think anybody knows it for

00:42:58.498 --> 00:43:00.900
anything, to be honest,

00:43:00.940 --> 00:43:02.460
from what I can tell.

00:43:02.501 --> 00:43:04.463
As far as your fiber optic and your

00:43:04.503 --> 00:43:04.862
water,

00:43:05.222 --> 00:43:06.684
they're pretty good other than the sewer

00:43:06.704 --> 00:43:09.626
system down there and the drainage system.

00:43:09.766 --> 00:43:09.925
Yeah,

00:43:09.947 --> 00:43:12.188
there's not actually a sewer system there.

00:43:12.327 --> 00:43:18.512
It's the drainage system.

00:43:18.873 --> 00:43:20.273
That's there that you...

00:43:21.228 --> 00:43:23.630
Right, there is the gas station.

00:43:23.951 --> 00:43:29.315
Yeah, so it's like Cattywampus over here.

00:43:29.335 --> 00:43:30.114
Cattywampus?

00:43:30.155 --> 00:43:32.376
Well, the whole country read that.

00:43:32.456 --> 00:43:33.898
I know what he meant.

00:43:35.898 --> 00:43:36.739
Over yonder.

00:43:36.759 --> 00:43:37.039
Yeah.

00:43:37.059 --> 00:43:42.884
It's kind of like cockeyed.

00:43:43.244 --> 00:43:43.324
Yep.

00:43:43.364 --> 00:43:43.824
Both sides.

00:43:56.561 --> 00:44:00.902
That's all I've got for you unless you

00:44:00.942 --> 00:44:04.063
have any questions.

00:44:04.222 --> 00:44:04.443
Okay.

00:44:04.483 --> 00:44:07.443
Thank you, Rick.

00:44:07.603 --> 00:44:07.764
April?

00:44:07.784 --> 00:44:08.784
Kyra?

00:44:08.804 --> 00:44:12.485
Come in.

00:44:12.525 --> 00:44:14.786
Yeah, I got one thing here,

00:44:14.827 --> 00:44:15.907
but I don't know if we need to

00:44:15.947 --> 00:44:18.307
amend the agenda or how you do that.

00:44:18.347 --> 00:44:18.487
Well.

00:44:23.951 --> 00:44:24.871
You're going to change it, isn't it?

00:44:24.891 --> 00:44:26.251
You're going to have to do something.

00:44:26.311 --> 00:44:27.652
Well, I guess so.

00:44:27.692 --> 00:44:27.791
Well,

00:44:27.831 --> 00:44:29.072
you're going to have to ask for a

00:44:29.112 --> 00:44:30.371
vote to amend that agenda.

00:44:30.492 --> 00:44:32.132
All right, we need to amend the agenda.

00:44:32.172 --> 00:44:34.992
We need a motion and then a second,

00:44:35.193 --> 00:44:38.474
and then a discussion and a vote.

00:44:38.494 --> 00:44:38.813
All right,

00:44:38.914 --> 00:44:41.173
I'll make a motion to amend the agenda.

00:44:41.634 --> 00:44:45.275
I'll second that out of curiosity.

00:44:48.456 --> 00:44:49.335
All in favor say aye.

00:44:49.496 --> 00:44:49.596
Aye.

00:44:53.483 --> 00:44:56.884
amended it for to talk about the uh

00:44:57.403 --> 00:45:02.186
planning commission actually got a

00:45:02.226 --> 00:45:05.146
resolution here adam would you mind coming

00:45:05.407 --> 00:45:07.967
sitting up there me and adam have been

00:45:08.146 --> 00:45:11.947
talking working together okay just to read

00:45:12.009 --> 00:45:18.389
this procedure we have a motion to amend

00:45:18.409 --> 00:45:19.231
the agenda to add

00:45:22.675 --> 00:45:27.699
so that was to amend it now we

00:45:27.719 --> 00:45:30.001
need to make a motion on your agenda

00:45:30.161 --> 00:45:33.985
item so is there you want to make

00:45:34.025 --> 00:45:36.047
a motion whatever your motion might be so

00:45:36.067 --> 00:45:39.188
you want to i guess it's really now

00:45:39.208 --> 00:45:42.231
we're going to make it on calendar four

00:45:42.271 --> 00:45:44.753
so you go to second that yeah i'll

00:45:44.773 --> 00:45:46.855
second that all right all right

00:46:01.766 --> 00:46:05.887
So after a strict investigation on all the

00:46:06.168 --> 00:46:07.728
planning and zoning stuff,

00:46:08.009 --> 00:46:10.271
we figured out that the board is kind

00:46:10.331 --> 00:46:11.090
of illegal,

00:46:11.130 --> 00:46:13.952
not for the facts of what some people

00:46:13.972 --> 00:46:14.512
said,

00:46:14.813 --> 00:46:17.375
but after digging into it and all this

00:46:17.414 --> 00:46:17.795
and that,

00:46:18.489 --> 00:46:22.592
Any board that makes a decision on behalf

00:46:22.672 --> 00:46:24.373
of the public's gotta take an oath of

00:46:24.594 --> 00:46:26.215
office.

00:46:26.474 --> 00:46:28.436
And after digging around,

00:46:28.476 --> 00:46:30.137
we found out that the oath of office

00:46:30.157 --> 00:46:33.320
has never been taken for the planning

00:46:34.139 --> 00:46:34.800
commission.

00:46:34.820 --> 00:46:37.561
Would you like to invite more on that,

00:46:37.621 --> 00:46:40.563
Adam?

00:46:41.724 --> 00:46:44.387
Well, basically,

00:46:45.690 --> 00:46:46.469
Article XV,

00:46:46.550 --> 00:46:48.130
Section IV of the Constitution that's

00:46:48.150 --> 00:46:48.891
stating in the air,

00:46:48.931 --> 00:46:50.590
requires that every person elected or

00:46:50.610 --> 00:46:52.351
appointed to any office under the

00:46:52.391 --> 00:46:54.831
Constitution shall,

00:46:58.132 --> 00:47:00.552
before entering on the duties thereof,

00:47:01.572 --> 00:47:04.014
take an oath or affirmation to support the

00:47:04.054 --> 00:47:06.375
Constitution of the United States and also

00:47:06.474 --> 00:47:07.295
an oath of office.

00:47:07.514 --> 00:47:09.875
This is an oath pertaining to the office

00:47:09.894 --> 00:47:10.255
itself.

00:47:10.594 --> 00:47:11.755
So for example,

00:47:15.012 --> 00:47:17.432
person appointed by the county council to

00:47:17.472 --> 00:47:19.972
the planning commission takes a oath for

00:47:19.992 --> 00:47:22.773
the county council as an elected official

00:47:23.014 --> 00:47:24.474
but they have to take another oath

00:47:25.034 --> 00:47:27.315
pursuant to the office of the planning

00:47:27.335 --> 00:47:29.594
commission and the same with the board of

00:47:29.614 --> 00:47:32.315
commissioners so those two the the

00:47:32.335 --> 00:47:33.735
basically the commissioner's oath of

00:47:33.755 --> 00:47:35.235
office doesn't work on the planning

00:47:35.255 --> 00:47:37.376
commission the councilman's oath of office

00:47:37.396 --> 00:47:38.836
doesn't work on the planning commission

00:47:39.237 --> 00:47:40.777
they also have to take another oath

00:47:40.918 --> 00:47:42.077
pursuant to the planning commission

00:47:45.155 --> 00:47:47.376
And then Indiana Court of Appeals,

00:47:47.476 --> 00:47:51.338
I believe Tony probably has it listed on

00:47:51.378 --> 00:47:53.880
the resolution that he authored,

00:47:54.360 --> 00:47:59.501
in the year of twenty-one made a ruling

00:47:59.541 --> 00:48:01.322
that plan commission members are officers,

00:48:01.342 --> 00:48:02.123
thank you,

00:48:04.103 --> 00:48:06.085
that plan commission members are officers

00:48:08.425 --> 00:48:10.447
required to take the oath under IC.

00:48:10.487 --> 00:48:11.768
five four one one

00:48:12.726 --> 00:48:14.447
and that would include all positions of

00:48:14.487 --> 00:48:16.889
authority and exercise governmental powers

00:48:16.909 --> 00:48:18.271
of best benefit to the public.

00:48:18.690 --> 00:48:21.572
So, and this also includes the BZA.

00:48:21.612 --> 00:48:24.215
This was a twenty twenty-one appeals court

00:48:24.295 --> 00:48:25.936
ruling that made this,

00:48:25.956 --> 00:48:27.257
I mean you can look it up in

00:48:27.318 --> 00:48:29.318
Just Deal Law, this is the law now.

00:48:29.378 --> 00:48:29.639
So,

00:48:30.480 --> 00:48:32.862
this was not the case in two thousand

00:48:32.902 --> 00:48:35.164
ten through two thousand seventeen when I

00:48:35.184 --> 00:48:36.304
was on the planning commission.

00:48:36.684 --> 00:48:37.806
I didn't know about this.

00:48:38.456 --> 00:48:40.239
and therefore we never did this back then

00:48:40.259 --> 00:48:42.521
because it had never been ruled on until

00:48:42.661 --> 00:48:47.846
one had become law so um and uh

00:48:47.905 --> 00:48:51.528
pursuant to ic five four one one point

00:48:51.568 --> 00:48:54.110
two d if an individual appointed elected

00:48:54.130 --> 00:48:55.833
to an office of a political subdivision

00:48:55.853 --> 00:48:59.576
does not comply with subsection c the

00:48:59.735 --> 00:49:03.539
office becomes debated so basically

00:49:05.824 --> 00:49:07.965
the it's not you know whether this

00:49:08.025 --> 00:49:10.025
resolution passes or not doesn't make the

00:49:10.065 --> 00:49:12.766
planning commission legitimate the entire

00:49:13.666 --> 00:49:15.708
membership is actually just vacant the

00:49:15.748 --> 00:49:17.528
board is legal because it was adopted by

00:49:17.688 --> 00:49:20.809
legal resolution in in back when i was

00:49:21.791 --> 00:49:23.731
part of the planning commission it was a

00:49:23.751 --> 00:49:25.052
legally created board

00:49:26.119 --> 00:49:28.519
But because this has never been complied

00:49:28.539 --> 00:49:29.760
with since twenty twenty one,

00:49:29.780 --> 00:49:31.721
when this appeals court ruling was made,

00:49:32.280 --> 00:49:34.380
the board is actually just taking forward

00:49:34.400 --> 00:49:34.641
right now.

00:49:34.661 --> 00:49:36.922
There is only actually one legitimate

00:49:36.981 --> 00:49:39.202
member, and that would be Andrew Davidson,

00:49:39.222 --> 00:49:42.163
who was reappointed at last last council

00:49:42.182 --> 00:49:42.483
meeting.

00:49:42.963 --> 00:49:45.643
If he has gone within thirty days and

00:49:45.963 --> 00:49:49.264
filed his close of office with the clerk

00:49:49.284 --> 00:49:50.025
of the circuit court,

00:49:50.045 --> 00:49:51.206
which is where it has to be.

00:49:53.911 --> 00:49:54.472
And I checked,

00:49:54.532 --> 00:49:56.132
I went down there and checked to make

00:49:56.152 --> 00:49:57.733
sure that there was something that hadn't

00:49:57.753 --> 00:49:59.253
happened that I didn't know about.

00:49:59.673 --> 00:50:01.393
And there was no,

00:50:02.134 --> 00:50:04.014
the clerk of the circuit court didn't even

00:50:04.034 --> 00:50:05.054
know what I was talking about.

00:50:05.094 --> 00:50:05.574
They were like,

00:50:05.594 --> 00:50:07.255
we don't have anything for the planning

00:50:07.275 --> 00:50:07.996
commission down here.

00:50:08.016 --> 00:50:09.675
There's no oath of office.

00:50:10.036 --> 00:50:10.416
So,

00:50:11.376 --> 00:50:13.896
and I checked with the auditor's office to

00:50:13.916 --> 00:50:14.996
make sure that, you know,

00:50:15.016 --> 00:50:16.777
something maybe wasn't just filed in the

00:50:16.797 --> 00:50:17.257
wrong place.

00:50:20.963 --> 00:50:23.463
So, in any way,

00:50:24.965 --> 00:50:26.686
that's just the long and the short of

00:50:26.706 --> 00:50:26.865
it,

00:50:26.905 --> 00:50:28.565
is that the board is just vacant because

00:50:28.586 --> 00:50:30.246
they've never complied with the

00:50:30.286 --> 00:50:33.047
Constitution stated in Indiana under Title

00:50:33.088 --> 00:50:37.690
V. So, if I'm not explaining well enough,

00:50:37.750 --> 00:50:38.811
if anybody's got any questions,

00:50:38.891 --> 00:50:44.972
I'll be happy to answer them.

00:50:44.992 --> 00:50:46.773
So you're saying that I have to have,

00:50:48.893 --> 00:50:50.494
to get an oath of office for every

00:50:51.454 --> 00:50:53.114
one of the nine boards I sit on?

00:50:53.175 --> 00:50:54.496
Not necessarily,

00:50:54.775 --> 00:50:56.617
because if you read the ruling,

00:50:56.677 --> 00:50:58.416
and you probably need to read the whole

00:50:58.436 --> 00:50:58.597
ruling,

00:50:58.617 --> 00:51:01.458
that's the Indian appeals court ruling.

00:51:01.478 --> 00:51:04.599
It's a one-sixty-four N-E-three-D,

00:51:04.800 --> 00:51:06.121
one-thirty-one,

00:51:06.141 --> 00:51:08.521
twenty-twenty-one is the date.

00:51:09.061 --> 00:51:12.824
Case number twenty-eight C-T dash eleven

00:51:12.864 --> 00:51:13.483
ninety-seven.

00:51:14.869 --> 00:51:17.132
If you actually read that appeals court

00:51:17.172 --> 00:51:19.373
ruling, that officers,

00:51:19.393 --> 00:51:21.114
including persons who hold positions of

00:51:21.193 --> 00:51:23.856
authority and exercise governmental power

00:51:24.295 --> 00:51:27.777
to benefit the public.

00:51:28.559 --> 00:51:31.159
So that's why the ruling,

00:51:31.619 --> 00:51:33.521
the court ruling was specifically for

00:51:33.541 --> 00:51:36.282
Jefferson County, Indiana, Madison.

00:51:39.159 --> 00:51:40.521
over their plan commission.

00:51:41.440 --> 00:51:44.461
And the ruling was specifically, you know,

00:51:44.501 --> 00:51:46.402
because plan commissions,

00:51:46.463 --> 00:51:48.103
a lot of plan commissions around the state

00:51:48.143 --> 00:51:49.704
had not complied with this thing,

00:51:49.724 --> 00:51:51.885
so eventually someone took it to court,

00:51:52.505 --> 00:51:55.646
and the judge ruled that plan commissions

00:51:55.686 --> 00:51:58.027
and BZAs were required to take the oath

00:51:58.047 --> 00:51:58.467
of office.

00:51:58.547 --> 00:52:00.969
Now, whether any other boards are or not,

00:52:00.989 --> 00:52:01.789
you have to see if you,

00:52:03.309 --> 00:52:04.210
on that board,

00:52:04.690 --> 00:52:06.510
exercise governmental powers.

00:52:07.032 --> 00:52:07.771
See what I'm saying?

00:52:08.862 --> 00:52:10.202
for the welfare of the citizens.

00:52:10.563 --> 00:52:11.143
If you don't,

00:52:11.164 --> 00:52:12.525
then you're not required to take the oath

00:52:12.545 --> 00:52:13.085
of office.

00:52:15.487 --> 00:52:16.547
And in that ruling,

00:52:16.568 --> 00:52:17.588
if you read the ruling,

00:52:19.730 --> 00:52:21.771
the judge ruled that everything done by

00:52:21.871 --> 00:52:23.913
every planning commission up to that point

00:52:24.152 --> 00:52:25.893
was de facto legitimate.

00:52:26.673 --> 00:52:27.534
Because they said, look,

00:52:27.554 --> 00:52:30.217
we're not going to let this lack of

00:52:30.237 --> 00:52:32.918
an oath of office undo everything done by

00:52:33.018 --> 00:52:34.579
every planning commission in the state,

00:52:34.599 --> 00:52:36.641
because hardly any of them had ever

00:52:36.701 --> 00:52:37.581
complied with it.

00:52:38.170 --> 00:52:39.351
So, like I said,

00:52:39.391 --> 00:52:41.351
moving forward from twenty twenty one on,

00:52:41.391 --> 00:52:43.293
this needs to be done so that the

00:52:43.313 --> 00:52:44.474
planning commissions are legal.

00:52:44.514 --> 00:52:46.175
Otherwise, people can come in and say,

00:52:46.315 --> 00:52:48.197
by what authority did you do this?

00:52:48.856 --> 00:52:50.057
Because you're not,

00:52:50.697 --> 00:52:52.219
you don't have an oath of office,

00:52:52.518 --> 00:52:54.440
then the board is vacant and you don't

00:52:54.460 --> 00:52:55.460
have the authority to do it.

00:52:55.822 --> 00:52:58.483
So moving forward to make sure that the

00:52:58.503 --> 00:53:00.485
planning commission does things legally

00:53:00.505 --> 00:53:02.465
that cannot be just instantly overturned

00:53:02.505 --> 00:53:04.286
by judges, this has to be addressed.

00:53:04.306 --> 00:53:04.887
That's easy enough.

00:53:21.204 --> 00:53:21.804
Any other questions?

00:53:21.824 --> 00:53:22.744
So you're saying,

00:53:23.226 --> 00:53:28.786
you're saying that is the only thing

00:53:28.887 --> 00:53:31.907
that's pretended to is the planning is on

00:53:31.927 --> 00:53:32.949
the board?

00:53:33.088 --> 00:53:33.789
And the BZA.

00:53:33.869 --> 00:53:35.730
And the BZA.

00:53:37.889 --> 00:53:39.170
And feel free to do your own legal

00:53:39.210 --> 00:53:41.911
research and read the appeals court ruling

00:53:41.931 --> 00:53:42.692
listed on that.

00:53:45.688 --> 00:53:48.190
Because to answer Todd's question,

00:53:48.309 --> 00:53:50.349
every board that you're on does not

00:53:50.389 --> 00:53:51.811
necessarily require this oath.

00:53:52.271 --> 00:53:55.010
There are specific things that the judge

00:53:55.391 --> 00:54:00.132
ruled that were criteria for needing to

00:54:00.172 --> 00:54:02.132
have the oath.

00:54:02.233 --> 00:54:04.773
And there's even a standard form for the

00:54:04.914 --> 00:54:07.693
oath that is taken to be on file

00:54:07.733 --> 00:54:09.835
at the clerk of the circuit court.

00:54:11.882 --> 00:54:13.824
um and bcas and plan commissions fall

00:54:13.844 --> 00:54:17.608
directly under that not only do they but

00:54:17.648 --> 00:54:20.190
the specific ruling was over the plan

00:54:20.210 --> 00:54:22.413
commission and bca of jefferson county

00:54:22.452 --> 00:54:25.016
began so it's pretty cut and dry

00:54:28.143 --> 00:54:29.824
made up a resolution here and this would

00:54:29.844 --> 00:54:32.246
be a uh would actually be a fix

00:54:32.306 --> 00:54:35.050
all for that so we can proceed right

00:54:35.070 --> 00:54:37.092
with the planning commission right and the

00:54:37.112 --> 00:54:38.213
planning commission would have to be

00:54:38.253 --> 00:54:39.996
reappointed right because it's that the

00:54:40.016 --> 00:54:41.476
board is thinking there's no one on the

00:54:41.577 --> 00:54:43.679
board that is a legitimate officer at this

00:54:43.780 --> 00:54:48.043
point except andrew davidson and that's

00:54:48.123 --> 00:54:48.965
well it's not been through

00:54:53.072 --> 00:54:55.094
I would suggest before we get to the

00:54:55.114 --> 00:54:57.396
cart before the horse here,

00:54:57.416 --> 00:55:00.597
we simply need to get a copy of

00:55:00.637 --> 00:55:02.219
those forms from the clerk and swear

00:55:02.639 --> 00:55:03.260
everybody

00:55:19.831 --> 00:55:21.552
You can't put everybody in because they

00:55:21.592 --> 00:55:23.652
haven't done this within thirty days of

00:55:23.672 --> 00:55:26.255
their appointment so that their seats are

00:55:26.275 --> 00:55:27.655
vacant according to Indian Act.

00:55:27.695 --> 00:55:27.876
Well,

00:55:27.916 --> 00:55:29.576
if they're vacant according to the law,

00:55:29.596 --> 00:55:30.737
then they can be re-appointed.

00:55:30.817 --> 00:55:32.237
They have to be re-appointed before they

00:55:32.257 --> 00:55:33.077
take the oath.

00:55:33.478 --> 00:55:35.239
So, yeah,

00:55:35.320 --> 00:55:37.161
just going and filing the oath isn't going

00:55:37.181 --> 00:55:37.920
to cut it.

00:55:44.465 --> 00:55:45.525
Did I give you a copy of the

00:55:45.605 --> 00:55:46.125
oath form?

00:55:46.505 --> 00:55:47.025
I got it.

00:55:47.065 --> 00:55:47.945
Yeah, no, look.

00:55:52.072 --> 00:55:55.956
We've got it somewhere there.

00:55:56.036 --> 00:55:56.896
I've got it.

00:55:57.036 --> 00:55:58.237
I've got the actual form.

00:55:58.438 --> 00:56:00.480
You fill in what the office is.

00:56:01.380 --> 00:56:02.862
And that's, as you just,

00:56:03.202 --> 00:56:04.222
everything else is pretty,

00:56:04.563 --> 00:56:05.684
pretty kind of got it.

00:56:05.724 --> 00:56:07.786
For me, it's the closest to everybody.

00:56:09.126 --> 00:56:10.807
Clerk, commissioners, who ever.

00:56:10.847 --> 00:56:11.608
Well, that's right.

00:56:11.648 --> 00:56:13.369
Yeah, there's several people.

00:56:13.389 --> 00:56:14.851
Doesn't even need one night.

00:56:14.871 --> 00:56:17.152
Yeah.

00:56:18.168 --> 00:56:21.610
unfortunately our former former attorney

00:56:21.630 --> 00:56:25.773
didn't mention this to us and naturally

00:56:26.032 --> 00:56:28.355
had we known it was the law of

00:56:28.375 --> 00:56:32.237
the land we would have complied we looked

00:56:32.277 --> 00:56:35.400
to our attorneys for guidance and he

00:56:35.420 --> 00:56:39.121
didn't point that out so that's all we

00:56:39.141 --> 00:56:45.126
can say would her like to table this

00:56:45.146 --> 00:56:46.327
we have a motion

00:56:53.510 --> 00:56:55.030
in favor of tabling it for now?

00:56:55.110 --> 00:56:56.411
I think before we table that,

00:56:56.431 --> 00:56:57.791
we need to read it, though.

00:56:57.811 --> 00:56:57.951
Right,

00:56:57.971 --> 00:57:01.192
there'll need to be a motion for

00:57:01.231 --> 00:57:01.773
something.

00:57:01.793 --> 00:57:04.753
We'll make a motion we table it for

00:57:04.773 --> 00:57:08.114
now so we can investigate, read it,

00:57:08.715 --> 00:57:17.177
see what the law actually says.

00:57:17.297 --> 00:57:20.938
You know, Rhonda, I hate this.

00:57:20.958 --> 00:57:22.199
I don't want to bring it up.

00:57:23.409 --> 00:57:24.730
It's our age thing.

00:57:24.750 --> 00:57:25.990
I'm the old man in the room.

00:57:26.010 --> 00:57:28.552
I've been involved.

00:57:28.592 --> 00:57:29.351
But at this point,

00:57:29.972 --> 00:57:32.373
I really would like some time to read.

00:57:33.695 --> 00:57:35.376
I've heard you say it,

00:57:35.416 --> 00:57:36.275
thirteen years anyway,

00:57:36.295 --> 00:57:39.358
about what was wrong and that.

00:57:39.478 --> 00:57:40.737
And we don't try to be.

00:57:41.679 --> 00:57:41.898
I know.

00:57:41.938 --> 00:57:43.340
I need some more time on this.

00:57:43.559 --> 00:57:44.561
And I appreciate you.

00:57:44.900 --> 00:57:45.860
I appreciate you.

00:57:46.300 --> 00:57:47.081
I appreciate you.

00:57:47.661 --> 00:57:47.922
I know.

00:57:48.041 --> 00:57:48.342
I'm not.

00:57:48.362 --> 00:57:49.382
I want to do it right.

00:57:49.902 --> 00:57:50.943
I'm part of this fight.

00:57:52.130 --> 00:57:52.849
Back and forth,

00:57:53.210 --> 00:57:54.570
saying we got something wrong.

00:57:55.050 --> 00:57:55.992
Let's get it right.

00:57:57.032 --> 00:57:58.413
That's what this is for.

00:58:01.273 --> 00:58:03.594
I don't want to make the decision today.

00:58:03.635 --> 00:58:05.376
I'll sit at his table today.

00:58:05.856 --> 00:58:07.157
I need some time.

00:58:08.237 --> 00:58:09.538
I'll help you with this later on.

00:58:11.393 --> 00:58:13.335
There's some things that can happen that

00:58:13.355 --> 00:58:15.596
will actually bring the community closer

00:58:15.655 --> 00:58:17.817
to its government and actually be able to

00:58:17.856 --> 00:58:18.436
deal with it.

00:58:19.177 --> 00:58:22.920
And it was passed in twenty ten,

00:58:23.340 --> 00:58:24.360
connect the community.

00:58:25.061 --> 00:58:27.882
And it can actually be something that can

00:58:27.902 --> 00:58:30.463
be brought forward and have some clarity

00:58:30.483 --> 00:58:32.563
with government and actually save your

00:58:32.664 --> 00:58:35.126
behinds instead of me just laughing up

00:58:35.166 --> 00:58:35.326
here.

00:58:36.994 --> 00:58:39.077
in the row but yeah no there are

00:58:39.396 --> 00:58:40.836
ways to deal with this and it's a

00:58:40.876 --> 00:58:42.297
lot of I've just had a lot of

00:58:42.318 --> 00:58:44.840
things going on this year and a lot

00:58:44.880 --> 00:58:47.481
of things just bunched up but I'm going

00:58:47.501 --> 00:58:50.282
to try to get you up and going

00:58:50.302 --> 00:58:51.322
the intent of this is to bring the

00:58:51.342 --> 00:58:53.923
community together and get in behind us

00:58:54.184 --> 00:58:57.025
and ride behind us instead of against us

00:58:57.045 --> 00:59:00.487
that's the whole purpose of this to show

00:59:00.568 --> 00:59:01.989
that us as board of commissioners is

00:59:02.009 --> 00:59:04.389
working in unison for something for the

00:59:04.409 --> 00:59:04.670
public

00:59:05.998 --> 00:59:09.259
My intent behind that is to make it

00:59:09.318 --> 00:59:09.739
right.

00:59:09.760 --> 00:59:13.260
And I don't care right now the way

00:59:13.280 --> 00:59:14.041
it's going on.

00:59:14.061 --> 00:59:16.842
If you try to pass a one-line ordinance

00:59:16.963 --> 00:59:19.342
on the planning and zoning or two hundred

00:59:19.382 --> 00:59:21.103
patents, you're gonna have an uproar.

00:59:21.623 --> 00:59:22.684
You're gonna have one.

00:59:22.905 --> 00:59:24.565
It's that gone simple.

00:59:25.710 --> 00:59:27.851
This right here would help men and get

00:59:27.891 --> 00:59:30.273
it fixed and for us to move forward.

00:59:30.632 --> 00:59:32.434
I ain't saying we're going to solve it.

00:59:32.474 --> 00:59:34.375
We're going to vacate it and reappoint it

00:59:34.695 --> 00:59:36.396
and get some people in working together

00:59:36.436 --> 00:59:38.137
and doing this and doing this right.

00:59:38.817 --> 00:59:41.938
That's my intent behind this.

00:59:41.978 --> 00:59:43.420
Shouldn't it be written into record for

00:59:43.440 --> 00:59:44.079
the live streamers?

00:59:45.641 --> 00:59:47.141
I don't think the live thing is up.

00:59:47.260 --> 00:59:50.382
I'll read it.

00:59:51.255 --> 00:59:53.436
Article fifteen six for the Constitution

00:59:53.456 --> 00:59:54.936
of the state of Indiana requires that

00:59:54.996 --> 00:59:56.838
every person elected are appointed to any

00:59:56.918 --> 00:59:59.380
office under the Constitution shall before

00:59:59.480 --> 01:00:01.221
entering on the duty therefore take an

01:00:01.320 --> 01:00:03.802
oath or affirmation to support the

01:00:03.842 --> 01:00:05.563
Constitution of the state of the United

01:00:05.603 --> 01:00:08.244
States and also an oath of office.

01:00:09.005 --> 01:00:11.146
Whereas the Indiana Court of Appeals one

01:00:11.166 --> 01:00:14.148
six four North E three D one three

01:00:14.327 --> 01:00:17.028
one twenty twenty one case number two A

01:00:17.088 --> 01:00:19.351
twenty A that C T that one one

01:00:19.391 --> 01:00:19.951
nine seven.

01:00:20.512 --> 01:00:23.114
has recently affirmed that plan commission

01:00:23.153 --> 01:00:25.653
members are officers required to take an

01:00:25.813 --> 01:00:29.534
oath under IC five dash four dash one

01:00:29.695 --> 01:00:32.135
one and that officers included persons who

01:00:32.195 --> 01:00:34.996
hold positions of authority and exercise

01:00:35.036 --> 01:00:37.556
governmental powers to benefit the public.

01:00:38.097 --> 01:00:41.157
Pursuant to IC thirty six dash seven dash

01:00:41.197 --> 01:00:42.637
four dash nine hundred series,

01:00:42.657 --> 01:00:44.797
the definition of officer applies to

01:00:44.858 --> 01:00:47.679
members of a board of zoning appeals.

01:00:48.936 --> 01:00:52.237
Whereas pursuant to IC five dash four dash

01:00:52.396 --> 01:00:54.356
one dash one dot two,

01:00:54.936 --> 01:00:56.976
an individual appointed or elected to an

01:00:57.016 --> 01:00:59.677
official of a political subdivision must

01:00:59.757 --> 01:01:02.077
take an oath required by section one of

01:01:02.117 --> 01:01:04.119
this chapter and deposit the oath as

01:01:04.159 --> 01:01:06.938
required by section four of this chapter

01:01:07.219 --> 01:01:09.659
not later than thirty days after the

01:01:09.679 --> 01:01:11.780
beginning of the term of office.

01:01:12.460 --> 01:01:15.061
Pursuant to IC five dash four dash one

01:01:15.081 --> 01:01:16.360
dash one dot two,

01:01:16.931 --> 01:01:19.253
If an individual appointed or elected to

01:01:19.293 --> 01:01:21.355
an office of political subdivision does

01:01:21.414 --> 01:01:22.896
not comply with subsection,

01:01:22.916 --> 01:01:25.398
the office becomes vacant.

01:01:25.797 --> 01:01:28.559
And whereas no member of the Washington

01:01:28.599 --> 01:01:30.942
County Planning Commission or the

01:01:30.981 --> 01:01:33.023
Washington County Board of Zoning Appeals

01:01:33.063 --> 01:01:34.844
has an oath on file in the office

01:01:34.864 --> 01:01:36.746
of Washington County Clerk of Circuit

01:01:36.766 --> 01:01:37.186
Court.

01:01:37.666 --> 01:01:38.467
Now, therefore,

01:01:38.487 --> 01:01:39.869
it be resolved that the county

01:01:39.889 --> 01:01:40.409
commissioners

01:01:40.858 --> 01:01:42.320
of Washington County, Indiana,

01:01:42.360 --> 01:01:44.041
declares that all the seats on the

01:01:44.081 --> 01:01:45.802
Washington County Planning Commission and

01:01:45.862 --> 01:01:47.722
Washington County Board of Zoning Appeals

01:01:47.802 --> 01:01:50.103
are vacant and need to be reappointed,

01:01:50.485 --> 01:01:51.204
reappealed,

01:01:51.724 --> 01:01:53.166
paying strict attention to the

01:01:53.206 --> 01:01:55.226
qualifications of future members as to

01:01:55.246 --> 01:01:56.188
knowledge, experience,

01:01:56.248 --> 01:01:58.688
awareness of area problems and interests

01:01:58.708 --> 01:02:02.150
in serving, as to resident requirements,

01:02:02.291 --> 01:02:04.572
as to political party affiliation,

01:02:04.753 --> 01:02:06.054
as to oath of office,

01:02:06.213 --> 01:02:08.614
and as otherwise generally required by the

01:02:08.655 --> 01:02:10.195
statutes of the state of Indiana.

01:02:10.719 --> 01:02:12.079
Adopted by the county commission.

01:02:12.099 --> 01:02:15.940
I'm surprised you got read through all

01:02:15.960 --> 01:02:16.360
that.

01:02:16.400 --> 01:02:18.702
Had to have a speech class all week.

01:02:18.722 --> 01:02:19.202
Pretty good.

01:02:19.282 --> 01:02:19.581
Yeah.

01:02:19.601 --> 01:02:20.481
Thank you, Adam.

01:02:20.501 --> 01:02:21.143
Appreciate it.

01:02:21.202 --> 01:02:28.403
Appreciate your hard work.

01:02:28.423 --> 01:02:29.005
Anything else?

01:02:29.164 --> 01:02:38.567
I do have one thing.

01:02:40.250 --> 01:02:41.030
Believe it or not,

01:02:41.070 --> 01:02:43.572
this is something we can all get on

01:02:43.612 --> 01:02:45.034
board with, everybody.

01:02:46.155 --> 01:02:48.016
I don't know anybody in this room who

01:02:48.056 --> 01:02:48.998
likes taxes.

01:02:50.579 --> 01:02:51.300
I hate taxes.

01:02:54.463 --> 01:02:57.344
There is a bill in the Senate,

01:02:58.166 --> 01:02:58.786
Senate Bill,

01:03:06.757 --> 01:03:08.677
allowing the state of Indiana to

01:03:08.757 --> 01:03:12.039
strong-arm counties into adopting a wheel

01:03:12.079 --> 01:03:12.559
tax.

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Every vehicle you own will be taxed based

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on the number of wheels it has.

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No one on this board,

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since I've been involved in county

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government for going on eleven years,

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has ever indicated to me that they want

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a wheel tax.

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Nobody wants it.

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I don't want it.

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Nobody wants it.

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What they're trying to do is to tie

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it to our community crossings grant money

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that we use for paving and culverts and

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bridges.

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We currently get, we just got,

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we got one point five million dollars of

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community crossings money from the state

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of Indiana.

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And our highway department people,

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Rick Boyle and Tiffany in the office work

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very hard on getting these grants through.

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There's a lot of paperwork.

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as there is with any grant,

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but the state of Indiana has this bill

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tying this,

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that if you don't have a wheel tax

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in your county,

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then you're not gonna get this one point

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five million dollars.

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And I don't know of anybody in this

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room who would agree with that.

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Not even Lucy or Rhonda.

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So, please call your senator,

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is it Gary Burns that's on the committee?

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Well, get on the phone,

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because it's ridiculous.

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And I'd like to say something on the

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highway department's behalf.

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We don't like taxes either,

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and we don't want a wheel tax.

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So I think when that time comes,

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we should at least give it a thought

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to tell them to keep their money.

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And we don't want a wheel tax,

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and we'll talk about it.

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I would agree.

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Go ahead.

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Can I ask something on that?

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Can you clarify what we're talking about

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here?

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There's a,

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for businesses and larger vehicles,

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there is a heavy highway tax that already

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exists.

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Is this personal, you know,

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a Subaru is going to have a wheel

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tax on it now, or how does this,

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I don't understand.

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Everybody who has a licensed vehicle in

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Washington County will be taxed per wheel.

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state but i'm not understanding it goes to

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the county is it right back to it

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it gets collected by the state but then

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it comes back we're just trying to

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understand basically the state's saying

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you're not taxing your citizens hard

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enough right and we're going to make you

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tax and work so to push back i

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think we should consider when that time

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comes on the people so figure it out

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on our own that's all i have on

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that but we got off that

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What are you doing with the plant

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commission?

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I already made a motion to table.

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I'm going to vote to table.

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I made a motion to table.

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I second.

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All in favor say aye.

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Aye.

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Opposed?

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Aye.

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Opposed?

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I need a motion for adjournment.

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So moved.

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Second.