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With its trunk open you may notify

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Washington County.

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Go to the parking lot.

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I don't know after that one.

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I'm not.

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I didn't either.

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Scary.

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Okay, we'll call a meeting order.

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Everybody please stand.

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Say a pledge.

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On it, would you lay the pledge?

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Edward Preston,

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would you lay this in a prayer?

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I will.

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I pledge allegiance to the flag of the

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United States of America and to the

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republic for which it stands, one nation,

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under God, indivisible,

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with liberty and justice for all.

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Bow your heads, please.

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Most gracious Heavenly Father,

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we do thank you for this day and

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your blessings, Heavenly Father.

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Father God,

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just thank you that we have the freedom

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to come into this meeting,

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Heavenly Father.

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Father God, just...

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Clear all the heads, Heavenly Father,

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that whatever is done in here is best

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for the county.

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And Father,

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now just go with us in this meeting,

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lead God and direct us in everything we

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say and do.

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In Jesus' name we ask it.

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Amen.

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Amen.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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I'd like to make an adjustment to the

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agenda to reflect a contract that needs to

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be ratified with HWC engineering for

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services rendered for the new four H

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extension building at the fairgrounds.

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It's HWC.

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Yes.

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With that said,

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I'll make a motion to approve the agenda

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with that adjustment.

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Second.

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Twenty-second.

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Tots made a motion.

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All in favor say aye.

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Aye.

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Aye.

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William Salem, am I saying that right?

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No, you're fine.

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Salyer.

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Salyer.

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I'm sorry.

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No, you're fine.

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You're fine.

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Trust me.

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I've heard it every which way but loose,

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so that ain't going to save a deal

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for me.

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So you can live with that, right?

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Yeah, I can live with it.

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Would you come up forward to the desk,

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please?

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Sure.

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Thank you.

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So am I correct?

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We got a miss address or what?

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I don't really understand it.

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Okay.

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Here's the thing.

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I didn't find this out until March the

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twenty-first when I went in to give a

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building inspection to come out and look.

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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They had a work stop where it put

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in July the tenth of two thousand

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twenty-four that I never did receive.

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It went to one address.

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I hadn't lived there for five years.

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And downstairs,

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the auditor's office has one address.

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The assessor's office has another address.

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And they said at the building

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commissioner's area that they pulled it

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off of the tax card off the computer.

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Well,

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I get my taxes right here in town,

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have been for the last five years,

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where I live currently.

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And I wasn't aware of anything until the

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twenty-first.

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Now they haven't, I don't,

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I can't do anything.

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I spent twenty thousand dollars on the

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inside of this

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to get this renovated,

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and I'm just stuck now.

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I can't do anything.

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Jackson County RNC came and inspected my

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property on March the third,

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or March the twentieth.

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Passed my inspection as far as my electric

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and all that stuff goes,

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but he called Travis,

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and Travis said he needed to see it.

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I go into the office,

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and they said I got a stop order

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on it.

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They had a file there.

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I said I wasn't aware of that.

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I said if I'd have known what I

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know now on March the twenty-first,

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I wouldn't have stuck all this money into

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it a year ago.

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Well, six months ago.

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And now I don't know what to do.

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You know,

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I'm trying to get this off without any

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legal problems happening, you know,

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to occur anymore.

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The paperwork that they gave me,

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it shows us three symbols.

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that goes on global homes and goes on

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modular homes and goes on HUD houses are

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issued by the state to manufacturers that

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produce them specifically.

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They're not handed out to anybody but

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them.

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This was a custom built building for me

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to convert into a living space just for

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myself.

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So let me ask you.

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Sure.

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Are you free today?

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I'm free today.

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Okay, as soon as this meeting's over,

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can I get with him?

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Sure can.

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Let's do that.

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Okay, okay.

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I mean, I mean...

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i'm just going to say this one thing

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and then i'll i'll get out of your

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guys's hair no that's okay okay i have

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a picture of a person just living in

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a twelve by twelve storage building not

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more than a mile away from here i've

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been living in this building since okay i

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have a sixteen by forty

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that I can't even walk into now because

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of this stock worker.

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I mean, I'm scared to,

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so I'll just leave it at that.

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I mean, I have pictures of whatever, so.

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That's after the meeting.

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Okay, okay.

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We'll get this straightened out.

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Okay, thank you very much for your time,

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sir.

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Thank you.

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Gregory

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I got troubles.

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Say it again.

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Okay.

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How are you this morning?

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I'm good.

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How are you?

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Trying to get over a cold.

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Sorry to hear that.

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Yeah, you're on.

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I represent Washington County Farmers

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Market.

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As you may or may not know,

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we operate every Saturday starting in May.

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out of the parking lot in front of

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the Justice Center.

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We would like your permission to put a

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porta potty out there at our location this

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season.

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Currently our only rest facilities are

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inside the Sheriff's Department.

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I did talk to the sheriff about this.

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Do you know you do have access to

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go in the jail and have a clean

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facility rather than a port-a-can?

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I'm sorry?

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You can go to the jail,

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go in the front door there.

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Yeah.

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Just walk right in the door and use

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the facilities in there without messing

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with a nasty port-a-can.

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Yeah, that's what we have been doing.

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but it would be more convenient for a

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lot of our members who are a little

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bit older and whatnot.

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It's quite a walk from the parking lot

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to the sheriff's door and then also to

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the back of the building to get it

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to the restaurant that we could use.

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Where are you wanting to put a board

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cam now?

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Along the edge of the parking lot over

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by the Farm Bureau building.

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I'm afraid that's going to get us in

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trouble.

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Well,

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I'd have to check with Farm Bureau and

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see if they're okay with that.

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Okay.

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Can I have your phone number?

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My phone number?

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Yes, eight one two.

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Whoa, whoa, whoa.

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Just give it to me, please.

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Okay,

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eight one two six two zero three four

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zero three.

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Zero what?

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Three.

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One more time on that last, zero?

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Zero three.

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Okay.

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Let's check with Farm Bureau and make sure

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they'd be okay with it.

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Brent,

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do you have anything to say on this?

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Nothing other than they've been using the

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bathrooms inside the facility there.

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We don't have a problem with them coming

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in and using the bathrooms.

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I would prefer that there not be a

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port-a-pot out in the parking lot just for

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the fact that it could create issues.

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People turning their door in the parking

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lot creating issues out in the parking lot

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that we don't normally have to deal with.

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And I, along with you,

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would like to talk to the neighbors

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the business next door to see if they

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would be offended by that because that

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that would be putting next to their

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business out there too and would like to

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get their their input on that as well

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but they're more than welcome to continue

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using the bathrooms there at the sheriff's

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department excuse me i have a question is

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this uh this something that obviously

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you're not going to move it every week

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right you know you'd want to leave no

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it would be placed up there for the

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season yeah

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Having it delivered every single week

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would cost another seventy-five dollars

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for every delivery.

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Yeah,

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well until the day comes that somewhere in

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Salem we can have a really nice facility

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for a farmer's market and have restrooms.

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Maybe someday when we hit the lottery.

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I know a lot of communities even our

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size have

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have farmers markets facilities.

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That's one of my goals down the road

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a few years, but it takes money.

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But we appreciate you guys being there.

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We'll see if we can get something

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resolved.

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How's it working out there?

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Well, it used to be at Tavaro Grounds.

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I know it was limited on people finding

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it.

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Is it working pretty good out there now?

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It is working better because we have a

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higher visibility.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, we did fairly well last year.

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Good.

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You're growing, aren't you?

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Yes.

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Let me get with them,

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and I'll call you back on this.

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Okay.

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Appreciate your time.

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Thank you.

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Hayden Minton.

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Morning.

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Morning.

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How are y'all?

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Good.

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Where do you live at?

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Three Eleven, East Market Street.

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East Market?

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Yes, my name is Adrian.

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I do live in town,

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so this doesn't cover me,

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but what I will say is I serve

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as the chairperson for the Washington

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County Democratic Party.

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I've had several concerned local citizens

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come to me regarding the plan commission,

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so I wanted to speak on behalf of

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the party just to y'all, to you straight.

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Okay.

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Yes, please.

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Thank you.

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So, as you know,

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the Planning Commission may have up to

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five members with no more than three

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representing the same political party.

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There have been questions raised regarding

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individuals being identified as the

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Democrats on the Commission,

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raising concerns about whether these

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appointments would align with the

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requirements outlined in Indiana Code.

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I'd like to just say,

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as far as I'm aware, under Indiana Code,

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there are two ways to establish party

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affiliation.

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either voting in the two most recent

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primary elections in Indiana where the

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person cast a ballot for the party they

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claim to be,

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or certification by the chairperson of the

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county party confirming the individual's

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affiliation.

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I believe it is essential that these

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statutory guidelines are followed to

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maintain the integrity of the local

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governments in the Planning Commission,

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As you consider the reappointments to the

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Planning Commission,

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and as a county chairperson,

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I'm happy to work with you all to

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make sure that if someone is being

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identified under the Democratic Party,

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making sure that that state law is being

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followed.

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Doing so would help preserve the public

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trust and uphold the principles

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established by the state law.

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And I did have my contact information with

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the auditor.

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Interesting.

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I would be interested in I would if

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you could,

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could you get a list together of maybe

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I don't care, two,

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three or a dozen people who would be

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interested in serving their community on

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the plan commission people in your party?

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Yes.

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Hopefully qualified people who who might

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have some knowledge of, you know,

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property and

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kind of know the ways of the world

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and have some experience in in some part

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of uh in dealing with with land issues

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and things like that yeah that'd be great

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much appreciated you just either send that

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to the auditor or just drop it off

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here at the auditor's office and be more

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than happy to look at the list thank

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you thank you thank you thank you

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Lucy Britton.

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That's me.

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That's you?

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That's me.

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Where you live at, Lucy?

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Yes, good morning.

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I'm so happy to be here with the

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weather.

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It's going to be so amazing this week.

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So I would like to start out just

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by actually reading something that Adam

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DeFore posted on Facebook,

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which I think is absolutely phenomenal.

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He said,

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a critical decision for the Planning

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Commission is on the table in Washington

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County Board of Commissioners,

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and you have the option to do one

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of two things.

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Option number one is to reappoint all the

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same people that were on the planning

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commission before, provided, of course,

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they are eligible for the appointment.

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And option number two is to take the

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opportunity of the planning commission

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board being mostly vacant,

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because we do apparently have one person

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that might be legal on the board at

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this point, and restore public trust.

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There's a lot of public trust that's been

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lost in this whole debacle.

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And we want to find people that are

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committed and capable of doing the work

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that needs to be done.

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Option one would end the cycle of

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distrust, scrutiny, confrontation,

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and public outcry.

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After the total debacle of the recent

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proposed zoning ordinance and the chaos

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that ensued,

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the vast majority of people in Washington

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County are not likely going to ever have

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trust or confidence in those members

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because they were previously illegal.

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So a band-aid to just have them take

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a oath office and act like everything is

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okay is just simply not okay.

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Now, option two, of course,

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is to move forward with people that are

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eligible and legal for the Planning

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Commission.

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I say that there's a third option,

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and the third option is to restore

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freedom,

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the freedom over the property that people

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buy,

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and to put the freedom back in the

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individual hands of the property owners so

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that they don't have to worry about the

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store thing again.

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Now I realize that that's probably too

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much to ask for.

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So the road to hell is paved with

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good intentions.

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The Planning Commission operated illegally

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for years,

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and I hope that anyone negatively affected

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would find full redress of their

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grievances in court,

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which of course falls back on the

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taxpayers to pay for those actions.

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We don't want plans by the few.

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This is a miracle.

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We should be making our own individual

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plans over our own lives,

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and to be left alone, unblessed,

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to live our lives.

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So the most that I can hope for

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to come out of this debacle is that

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we would simply be left alone as property

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owners.

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If we're not trespassing on anyone else,

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I personally subscribe to what's known as

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the NAF, the non-aggression principle.

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So I don't believe in committing any kind

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of force or fraud against anyone.

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And unfortunately,

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by using the power of this body,

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people are being forced to do things they

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don't want to do and being charged for

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it.

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So I would ask you to do the

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right thing

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and dissolve the Planning Commission and

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let the single member that might actually

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be legal that's on it right now,

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let that person go back to their own

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life.

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Now, Aiden just mentioned,

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and you talked with him about putting

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somebody on the Planning Commission from

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the Democrat Party.

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There are more parties than that in this

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world.

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I'm a libertarian,

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and I would like to submit myself as

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someone that should be on the Planning

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Commission.

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I've been a mortgage broker since

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I ran the largest real estate investing

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association in Indiana.

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I was on the board for nearly ten

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years.

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We had three hundred and fifty members

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when I left.

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I'm an accomplished real estate investor.

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I've dealt with a lot of different

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situations with planning and zoning

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commissions and with getting things done

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for the individual who's going to be

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there.

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So I would submit myself for that position

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as well.

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I think I've reached my three minutes just

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about now.

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Thank you.

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I need approval for the minutes of the

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March eighteenth meeting.

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One correction on there.

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Something said about a billy goat or

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something in there.

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I just want to get that marked out

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and corrected.

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And what Rick was stating or something.

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I don't think he said anything about a

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billy goat in your statement,

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did you Rick?

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I do not believe so.

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All right, thank you.

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Okay.

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So that being said,

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do I have a motion for approval of

00:24:07.018 --> 00:24:07.478
the minutes?

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Motion to approve the minutes.

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Do I have a second?

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As corrected or?

00:24:12.962 --> 00:24:13.442
As corrected.

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As corrected, I'll second.

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All right, all in favor say aye.

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Aye.

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All right.

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Approval of claims and payroll.

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Motion to approve.

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Second.

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TODD MADE A MOTION.

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TONY SECOND.

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ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

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AYE.

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AYE.

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HEALTH DEPARTMENT DISCUSSION.

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NO.

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MOST PROPOSED RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING.

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I believe that was the motion that was

00:25:08.675 --> 00:25:12.839
tabled at the last meeting and our

00:25:12.880 --> 00:25:15.561
attorneys were going to investigate that

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April and I think Lisa also had been

00:25:19.205 --> 00:25:22.749
on vacation last week and naturally when

00:25:22.808 --> 00:25:24.871
we're accused of doing something,

00:25:25.892 --> 00:25:28.773
accused of doing something illegal then

00:25:30.244 --> 00:25:32.025
it's up to our attorneys that's why we

00:25:32.085 --> 00:25:35.905
pay them to make sure that if there

00:25:35.965 --> 00:25:38.926
is something that is in error that it's

00:25:38.987 --> 00:25:43.327
corrected so i'll make a motion to table

00:25:43.347 --> 00:25:46.608
that until we hear from lisa fleming our

00:25:46.648 --> 00:25:49.430
attorney for the plan commission and april

00:25:50.089 --> 00:25:53.171
our attorney for the commissioners okay

00:25:59.329 --> 00:26:00.151
Paul?

00:26:00.250 --> 00:26:02.353
I've got a motion to table that again.

00:26:02.472 --> 00:26:03.554
I'll second that.

00:26:03.594 --> 00:26:09.578
I'll just talk to Lisa.

00:26:09.598 --> 00:26:09.819
Paul?

00:26:09.839 --> 00:26:10.480
Aye.

00:26:11.121 --> 00:26:11.381
Aye.

00:26:11.740 --> 00:26:12.602
All in favor?

00:26:13.442 --> 00:26:13.903
Opposed?

00:26:15.565 --> 00:26:15.684
Aye.

00:26:15.944 --> 00:26:16.645
Tony opposed.

00:26:30.384 --> 00:26:32.905
Good morning, Paul.

00:26:32.925 --> 00:26:35.727
Are you ready for the MOU for HWC?

00:26:35.747 --> 00:26:39.247
That was the amendment that Mr.

00:26:39.326 --> 00:26:42.228
Ewan made today.

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Is that what you want to do?

00:26:44.148 --> 00:26:44.328
Yep.

00:26:44.368 --> 00:26:45.588
One second, Paul.

00:26:45.709 --> 00:26:45.949
Okay.

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You want to read that or are you

00:26:50.569 --> 00:26:51.789
just going to propose it?

00:26:51.849 --> 00:26:54.111
If you just want to read the motion,

00:26:54.211 --> 00:26:54.330
no.

00:26:55.494 --> 00:26:57.156
yeah i would like to make a motion

00:26:57.176 --> 00:27:02.761
to approve the contract with hwc to guide

00:27:02.781 --> 00:27:07.546
us through the legal aspects and the

00:27:07.906 --> 00:27:10.588
engineering for the fairgrounds building

00:27:10.608 --> 00:27:15.032
board this is a i'm sorry that was

00:27:15.073 --> 00:27:19.676
a motion there's a second then i can

00:27:19.737 --> 00:27:20.518
add some information so are you making

00:27:20.538 --> 00:27:20.959
that motion yes i am

00:27:23.432 --> 00:27:24.472
Second.

00:27:24.492 --> 00:27:24.853
Tony second.

00:27:24.873 --> 00:27:26.013
All in favor say aye.

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I have some comments just briefly.

00:27:28.576 --> 00:27:30.317
This is a memorandum of understanding

00:27:30.416 --> 00:27:33.078
agreement with HWC Engineering.

00:27:33.740 --> 00:27:35.601
They will be providing general engineering

00:27:35.641 --> 00:27:39.544
consulting services for the fairgrounds

00:27:39.604 --> 00:27:40.223
project.

00:27:42.125 --> 00:27:44.448
This is on an as needed basis.

00:27:45.587 --> 00:27:47.589
The hourly rates for reimbursements are

00:27:47.630 --> 00:27:49.730
included in the attachment to this

00:27:49.770 --> 00:27:50.192
agreement.

00:27:53.782 --> 00:27:54.423
Any other questions?

00:27:56.864 --> 00:28:05.346
Ready for a vote?

00:28:05.366 --> 00:28:06.028
We just did.

00:28:06.928 --> 00:28:08.048
All in favor say aye.

00:28:08.208 --> 00:28:08.929
Aye.

00:28:09.108 --> 00:28:19.012
Aye.

00:28:19.212 --> 00:28:19.432
Aye.

00:28:19.512 --> 00:28:20.173
Try this again.

00:28:20.212 --> 00:28:20.593
Okay.

00:28:23.182 --> 00:28:24.523
I'd like to start with kind of talking

00:28:24.544 --> 00:28:26.025
about the permits out there to give you

00:28:26.065 --> 00:28:28.326
kind of a heads up where we're at.

00:28:28.866 --> 00:28:29.347
Phase one,

00:28:29.367 --> 00:28:33.770
which included the septic permit that has

00:28:33.790 --> 00:28:36.113
been sent to the State Department of

00:28:36.133 --> 00:28:37.213
Health, Julia Hayes,

00:28:37.233 --> 00:28:38.815
which I think is over there.

00:28:38.835 --> 00:28:40.215
She's a Washington County resident.

00:28:40.236 --> 00:28:42.518
She received it and they gave us a

00:28:42.617 --> 00:28:46.320
tentative kind of approval date of May the

00:28:46.381 --> 00:28:46.840
second.

00:28:47.342 --> 00:28:48.122
So once that happens,

00:28:48.142 --> 00:28:49.963
then we'll be able to get the onsite

00:28:50.263 --> 00:28:52.766
sewer system installed and put in.

00:28:54.549 --> 00:28:55.990
Then on kind of the phase two buildings

00:28:56.010 --> 00:28:57.571
which were the mechanics garage and the

00:28:57.632 --> 00:29:01.015
salt buildings and the mixed salt

00:29:01.035 --> 00:29:01.454
buildings.

00:29:02.855 --> 00:29:05.898
The engineer is submitting the revisions

00:29:05.939 --> 00:29:07.400
to the mechanics garage.

00:29:08.003 --> 00:29:10.304
to take care of the fire code issues

00:29:10.324 --> 00:29:12.005
that we were having with the original

00:29:12.464 --> 00:29:13.005
drawing.

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They will be submitted this year,

00:29:15.144 --> 00:29:16.605
or this week, I'm sorry,

00:29:16.986 --> 00:29:19.246
for review up at the state and hopefully

00:29:19.266 --> 00:29:20.526
approval.

00:29:20.586 --> 00:29:21.766
They may come back with a comment or

00:29:21.786 --> 00:29:21.846
two,

00:29:21.865 --> 00:29:23.586
but hopefully it's under review and

00:29:23.606 --> 00:29:24.086
approval.

00:29:25.146 --> 00:29:28.807
And then last week we did receive the

00:29:28.968 --> 00:29:32.567
full construction design release for the

00:29:33.008 --> 00:29:36.769
mixed salt building and the salt building.

00:29:37.449 --> 00:29:37.808
out there.

00:29:37.848 --> 00:29:40.230
So we got the rebar out there for

00:29:40.250 --> 00:29:40.549
it.

00:29:40.891 --> 00:29:42.631
We're tying steel right now for it.

00:29:42.651 --> 00:29:45.192
Didn't really want to dig a big hole

00:29:45.252 --> 00:29:48.653
for all the rains to flood,

00:29:48.913 --> 00:29:50.914
but we are tying steel to get ready

00:29:51.275 --> 00:29:52.915
for right after these rains to get that

00:29:53.655 --> 00:29:54.817
building started up in the air.

00:29:57.388 --> 00:30:00.371
spoke to the electrical contractor,

00:30:01.011 --> 00:30:02.031
Kevin Holes,

00:30:02.051 --> 00:30:03.373
who's the manager of electric.

00:30:04.094 --> 00:30:06.596
He is going to be out there starting

00:30:06.635 --> 00:30:08.477
tomorrow, what he told me,

00:30:09.057 --> 00:30:11.118
and trying to work inside on the sign

00:30:11.138 --> 00:30:11.638
shed,

00:30:12.240 --> 00:30:14.000
getting that all roughed in and ready,

00:30:14.121 --> 00:30:15.082
and also on the

00:30:24.493 --> 00:30:27.634
contractor parks plumbing they gave me a

00:30:27.714 --> 00:30:31.416
tentative start date on april the seventh

00:30:31.497 --> 00:30:33.758
which is next monday might move into next

00:30:33.778 --> 00:30:35.818
next tuesday but monday or tuesday be out

00:30:35.838 --> 00:30:37.900
there to start on the sign shed plumbing

00:30:38.420 --> 00:30:40.980
and also the mechanics garage plumbing so

00:30:41.000 --> 00:30:43.402
we can get that one ready for the

00:30:43.541 --> 00:30:47.482
design release just for clarification when

00:30:47.502 --> 00:30:50.505
do you think a salt building will be

00:30:50.525 --> 00:30:51.065
done uh

00:30:55.682 --> 00:30:57.463
The actual salt building or the mixed?

00:30:58.884 --> 00:30:59.345
Or both?

00:30:59.986 --> 00:31:00.486
Salt.

00:31:00.826 --> 00:31:02.007
Okay, just the salt.

00:31:05.549 --> 00:31:07.691
I would guess right now you're probably

00:31:07.711 --> 00:31:10.452
talking July, mid-July,

00:31:10.553 --> 00:31:12.634
somewhere around there.

00:31:13.214 --> 00:31:14.756
When do you normally get your salt?

00:31:15.875 --> 00:31:18.397
We stock up through the summer,

00:31:18.417 --> 00:31:21.559
so we won't order more until probably

00:31:21.579 --> 00:31:22.661
spring when we use what we have.

00:31:22.701 --> 00:31:22.901
Okay.

00:31:26.678 --> 00:31:27.939
and I believe I'm right with this,

00:31:27.999 --> 00:31:30.339
Rick met with Ken Temple yesterday,

00:31:30.380 --> 00:31:31.681
and our on-site guy,

00:31:32.320 --> 00:31:34.182
and kind of tweaked the layout of the

00:31:35.061 --> 00:31:37.202
salt building, salt storage building,

00:31:37.242 --> 00:31:38.523
and I think kind of agreed,

00:31:38.663 --> 00:31:41.884
and also got the drag lane between the

00:31:41.904 --> 00:31:43.506
pre-oil shed and the salt building kind of

00:31:43.526 --> 00:31:44.286
established.

00:31:44.385 --> 00:31:44.506
Yeah,

00:31:44.526 --> 00:31:46.666
we're having an issue with the northern

00:31:46.707 --> 00:31:48.827
line kind of running out of room there

00:31:48.948 --> 00:31:50.929
and trying to figure out how to get

00:31:50.969 --> 00:31:52.670
things to fit in.

00:31:52.730 --> 00:31:54.111
We're kind of tweaking it just a little

00:31:54.131 --> 00:31:54.351
bit.

00:32:00.182 --> 00:32:02.844
septic tanks for the office and the shop

00:32:03.003 --> 00:32:05.263
area, both using the same electric field?

00:32:05.523 --> 00:32:05.864
Yes, sir.

00:32:05.884 --> 00:32:06.184
Okay.

00:32:06.625 --> 00:32:06.984
Yeah,

00:32:07.605 --> 00:32:13.026
the design flow did not demand two systems

00:32:13.945 --> 00:32:15.106
for the State Department of Health,

00:32:15.287 --> 00:32:17.406
so both of them will pump into,

00:32:17.886 --> 00:32:19.508
actually the mechanics garage will pump

00:32:19.567 --> 00:32:21.928
into the holding tank of the office,

00:32:22.048 --> 00:32:23.749
and then it'll all go over to the

00:32:23.788 --> 00:32:25.989
field together.

00:32:26.589 --> 00:32:27.910
And the rock around the building?

00:32:29.057 --> 00:32:29.457
I'm sorry.

00:32:29.757 --> 00:32:31.817
Is the rock done around the building where

00:32:31.837 --> 00:32:33.077
they can get in and set their other

00:32:33.097 --> 00:32:33.397
pole?

00:32:33.417 --> 00:32:35.898
No, I still need to do that.

00:32:36.278 --> 00:32:36.598
Okay.

00:32:36.618 --> 00:32:38.680
Get that little lane in there for Duke

00:32:38.759 --> 00:32:39.059
Energy.

00:32:39.259 --> 00:32:39.700
Okay.

00:32:39.720 --> 00:32:41.440
Yeah, I still need to do that.

00:32:41.461 --> 00:32:41.921
Okay.

00:32:45.602 --> 00:32:46.082
Anything else?

00:32:46.142 --> 00:32:48.102
That's kind of the highlights.

00:32:50.063 --> 00:32:51.343
You heard we're supposed to get a big

00:32:51.383 --> 00:32:52.443
rain tomorrow, didn't you?

00:32:52.523 --> 00:32:53.064
Yes, I did.

00:32:57.817 --> 00:32:59.577
of one of the reasons the electrician's

00:32:59.657 --> 00:32:59.778
off.

00:32:59.877 --> 00:33:01.239
He was supposed to start yesterday,

00:33:01.259 --> 00:33:01.679
but he's like,

00:33:01.699 --> 00:33:03.199
I need to get this outside stuff done

00:33:03.219 --> 00:33:04.480
so I can get the inside stuff done

00:33:04.500 --> 00:33:05.119
later this week.

00:33:05.359 --> 00:33:05.480
Well,

00:33:05.500 --> 00:33:07.060
you can buy fish for the pond out

00:33:07.101 --> 00:33:07.560
front.

00:33:08.041 --> 00:33:10.682
Not have the water.

00:33:10.903 --> 00:33:12.624
It's not stocked yet.

00:33:12.644 --> 00:33:13.443
Thank you, Paul.

00:33:14.104 --> 00:33:14.284
Rick.

00:33:33.035 --> 00:33:34.855
I have just a few minor updates for

00:33:34.875 --> 00:33:37.417
you here.

00:33:37.438 --> 00:33:40.019
Firstly, we placed our electronic stopper,

00:33:40.059 --> 00:33:40.619
excuse me,

00:33:40.680 --> 00:33:42.601
electronic speed limit signs on Boyle

00:33:42.661 --> 00:33:43.060
Road.

00:33:43.761 --> 00:33:45.863
That's probably our highest traffic and

00:33:46.103 --> 00:33:48.605
most serious accident road,

00:33:48.625 --> 00:33:50.006
biggest number of serious accidents.

00:33:50.026 --> 00:33:52.567
So we're going to try something new and

00:33:53.228 --> 00:33:54.608
we've received quite a bit of

00:33:55.518 --> 00:33:57.838
positive feedback from the residents out

00:33:57.858 --> 00:33:59.398
there so i think that's something we can't

00:33:59.419 --> 00:34:01.219
put on every road but to try something

00:34:01.278 --> 00:34:02.920
new it seems to be working so far

00:34:03.559 --> 00:34:04.539
once they get used to them in a

00:34:04.559 --> 00:34:05.940
few months i don't know how beaver right

00:34:05.960 --> 00:34:09.081
now seems to be helping or new yeah

00:34:09.521 --> 00:34:12.081
and they're set at which has the speed

00:34:12.101 --> 00:34:13.802
limit out there and if you go or

00:34:13.822 --> 00:34:15.222
above it starts flashing at you and

00:34:15.282 --> 00:34:16.603
everything seems to be functioning

00:34:16.643 --> 00:34:19.202
properly if they're solar powered pretty

00:34:19.222 --> 00:34:21.123
well self-maintained hopefully maintenance

00:34:21.164 --> 00:34:21.344
free

00:34:23.563 --> 00:34:24.985
as you stated you know we've got a

00:34:25.005 --> 00:34:27.527
big rain coming the crews are clearing any

00:34:27.567 --> 00:34:29.148
culverts and ditches that we know are an

00:34:29.228 --> 00:34:30.789
issue trying to get prepared as much as

00:34:30.809 --> 00:34:33.192
we can getting our flood signs getting

00:34:33.211 --> 00:34:35.293
everything situated hopefully mother

00:34:35.313 --> 00:34:36.675
nature is nice to us but we'll be

00:34:36.695 --> 00:34:39.476
as ready as we can be and finally

00:34:39.516 --> 00:34:42.300
we've advertised our twenty twenty five

00:34:42.340 --> 00:34:43.940
dash one community crossings

00:34:44.507 --> 00:34:46.489
It's in the paper, it's on the website.

00:34:46.509 --> 00:34:48.750
We've contacted five contractors to make

00:34:48.769 --> 00:34:49.670
sure they're aware of it,

00:34:49.769 --> 00:34:52.211
and that should be bids coming in,

00:34:52.911 --> 00:34:54.652
and we'll open on the fifteenth,

00:34:54.713 --> 00:34:57.114
so usually they wait until that fourteenth

00:34:57.134 --> 00:34:58.014
to submit the bids,

00:34:58.034 --> 00:34:59.534
and if Kyra heads up,

00:34:59.554 --> 00:35:00.735
they'll be on the way to you.

00:35:00.815 --> 00:35:04.137
We'll open those on the fifteenth.

00:35:04.157 --> 00:35:05.016
Fourteenth, fifteenth.

00:35:05.036 --> 00:35:05.197
Okay.

00:35:05.257 --> 00:35:05.458
Yep.

00:35:05.478 --> 00:35:06.237
That's all I've got for you.

00:35:06.257 --> 00:35:07.778
Thank you, Rick.

00:35:07.838 --> 00:35:07.918
Yep.

00:35:29.315 --> 00:35:31.755
I would just like to say one thing.

00:35:31.775 --> 00:35:34.597
We're not going to make it official today,

00:35:34.657 --> 00:35:37.838
but on this four H building at the

00:35:37.898 --> 00:35:38.639
fairgrounds,

00:35:39.219 --> 00:35:42.021
as I had mentioned with this HWC contract,

00:35:43.300 --> 00:35:46.342
this is part of the selection committee.

00:35:46.422 --> 00:35:50.664
How this will work is there will be

00:35:50.724 --> 00:35:52.846
two representatives from the council,

00:35:52.905 --> 00:35:55.067
and I've already got a couple volunteers,

00:35:55.427 --> 00:35:57.367
Mr. Davidson, who's here today.

00:35:57.387 --> 00:35:58.088
I want to thank him.

00:35:58.833 --> 00:36:00.199
And Todd Armstrong,

00:36:00.862 --> 00:36:02.007
one of the other councilmen,

00:36:02.797 --> 00:36:07.599
and along with myself and the growth

00:36:07.639 --> 00:36:09.581
partnership director former growth

00:36:09.721 --> 00:36:12.822
partnership director Angie Buchanan and

00:36:12.842 --> 00:36:15.965
then the non-voting member who will make

00:36:15.985 --> 00:36:19.806
the decision on the final bid once we

00:36:19.847 --> 00:36:22.748
get them all in would be a gentleman

00:36:22.789 --> 00:36:24.969
by the name of Tim Hunt who has

00:36:25.050 --> 00:36:27.931
no vote just simply there to make sure

00:36:27.952 --> 00:36:31.795
that we go through the scoring sheet

00:36:32.594 --> 00:36:35.096
And this is done in a fair manner,

00:36:35.155 --> 00:36:38.458
so everyone has an opportunity not only to

00:36:38.518 --> 00:36:39.139
bid on it,

00:36:39.719 --> 00:36:43.661
but we will be scrutinizing the bids to

00:36:43.701 --> 00:36:46.041
make sure that we get the most for

00:36:46.081 --> 00:36:48.503
our money on this new project.

00:36:48.684 --> 00:36:51.184
And I want to again thank Mr. Davidson,

00:36:51.224 --> 00:36:51.545
Mr.

00:36:52.244 --> 00:36:55.367
Armstrong for being on that selection

00:36:55.407 --> 00:36:55.847
committee.

00:36:56.407 --> 00:36:59.068
We'll vote on that officially at the next

00:36:59.128 --> 00:36:59.469
meeting.

00:36:59.489 --> 00:37:00.590
Thank you.

00:37:04.485 --> 00:37:05.005
Present.

00:37:05.806 --> 00:37:07.726
No, not yet.

00:37:07.766 --> 00:37:09.666
Can't hear.

00:37:10.266 --> 00:37:15.690
I need a motion.

00:37:15.769 --> 00:37:18.291
You got anything?

00:37:18.331 --> 00:37:18.650
Nope.

00:37:18.771 --> 00:37:18.931
Okay.

00:37:18.971 --> 00:37:21.172
I'll make a motion to adjourn.

00:37:21.192 --> 00:37:22.271
Second.

00:37:23.172 --> 00:37:24.492
All those in favor say aye.

00:37:24.952 --> 00:37:25.132
Aye.

00:37:25.193 --> 00:37:25.393
Aye.

