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and I need a motion to approve the

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agenda as it's printed.

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We're doing the average.

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This is a somewhat new format now of

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the form line.

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The state and our county would like us

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to see a little different order.

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So based on that.

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All right, next one.

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Motion to approve the agenda.

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The agenda, excuse me.

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I'll second that.

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All those in favor say aye.

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Aye.

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Okay.

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Now we have public comment and I'll turn

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this over to our attorney,

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April Gail Parker.

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Thank you.

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I've got papers cleared out.

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I've launched your content for the meeting

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from last month.

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And I wanted to go ahead and address

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those specifically.

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If you can go ahead and state your

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name.

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Rhonda Green.

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And then you can start your three minutes.

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I passed out information packets.

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As reference to your last meeting,

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you made several mistakes in your

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statement, the attorney did.

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My information source on the counties

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without zoning came from the Indiana Farm

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Bureau.

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And Farm Bureau has been actively

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promoting county-wide land use and zoning

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in Indiana for years,

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including learning events,

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which I have a copy of right by

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it.

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I thought Farm Bureau would be a reliable

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source,

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but I did little research and found that

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this site had not been updated since

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that Farm Bureau put out there on their

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website that they have not updated.

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The correct listing of counties from the

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Twenty Twenty-Two Indiana Planning and

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Zoning Laws Annotated Book published under

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the auspices of the Land Use and Zoning

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Section, Indiana State Bar Association,

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and the Indiana Chapter of the American

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Planning Association.

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The ten counties in Indiana do not

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currently have commissions including Clay,

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Crocklin, Dubois,

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Gibson, Greene, Lawrence, Martin, Orange,

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Pike, and Sullivan.

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Dubois County exercises limited

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subdivision control under IC three six,

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dash seven, dash three, dash two.

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Not even if that county does not have

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planning or a planning commission

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established,

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municipalities within that county may

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still have planning commissions

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exclusively for their jurisdiction.

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If there is a current difference in this

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list, we will address it again.

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The RDA is not county planning and zoning

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organization,

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even though it was brought up in the

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last county commissioner meeting this way.

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The only real connection that the RDA

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organization has to zoning is that they

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gave a grant last year to our illegal

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county zoning board to waste on an illegal

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ordinance proposal outside of the public

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eye and to put together a comprehensive

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plan without including the public or our

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input.

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That doesn't seem like gold star behavior,

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so maybe the RDA needs a little more

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scrutiny to see if there are other

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problems.

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Dissolving the county zoning and BCA

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boards is to protect the community and the

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individuals involved with these boards.

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You guys appear to think that openly

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breaking the law is cool,

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and I can tell you that it is

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not.

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A lot of damage has already been done

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that can't be undone by dissolving these

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boards, but by dissolving these boards,

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than to stop adding to the garbage.

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Do you have any questions?

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I've also done a couple copies of Lisa

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Fleming stating that it's too hard to

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follow the law and when she made sure

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that

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Todd Ewing was appointed to the board.

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And it's not whether you actually served

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on the board,

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but that you were actually appointed.

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Does that make sense?

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Okay.

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Thank you.

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Max Green.

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issue of the zoning board membership.

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I've never got a real answer on the

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uh, uh,

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thirty-six dash seven dash four dash two

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sixteen where the membership must own

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property or reside within the jurisdiction

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of the board.

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This has been going on for a number

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of years.

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I had an report from this back up

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in twenty-ten.

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and when the board was first established i

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brought this up in the uh commissioner

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meeting and the council meetings or the uh

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not anymore meetings but uh this was a

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indiana code and uh at that time i

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was representing uh mark hartman

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We've been on the board since I didn't

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know that he was on there,

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but he served on the planning board and

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the zoning board, a BZA board,

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which made him not a legitimate member

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because he didn't own property within the

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jurisdiction of the board.

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And he doesn't own property in the

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jurisdiction of the board?

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When we looked on the county maps,

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it showed that he did not own property

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outside of that.

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from the county website.

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That's the best way to do for doing

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our research.

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Also,

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Andrew Katz is in question on the same

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same issue here.

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And that was brought up in twenty, twenty,

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twenty two.

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And it never did get addressed until I

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understand he's no longer on the board.

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But up until that time,

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the board was allowed to continue with the

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membership that I believe,

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from the information I had from the county

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website,

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that did not comply with state law.

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And that's the long and short of it.

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And when the commissioners were aware that

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there might be an issue with a zoning

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board or a BGA member not meeting the

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requirements,

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The question is whether all the people who

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paid money to come in front of this

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board,

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whether they would come in front of a

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legitimate board or not,

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whether they need to be reimbursed.

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If there were any cases where they didn't

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get a legal hearing,

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whether the county needs to address

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whether the board has been taken care of

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properly or not.

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Paid money to come before the board,

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the only time anybody paid money to come

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before the board is if there was a...

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A BZA hearing.

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That's correct.

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And whether there was an adequate number

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of legal members to participate in the

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hearing or not is the question.

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You have to go to Travis to get

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the information unless there's a question

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about it.

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But that's what comes down to is whether

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the public was actually treated fairly in

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every case or not,

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whether the county needs to make it right

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before they go forward to make that

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decision.

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And same thing with the board membership

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as far as party affiliation or because in

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the past you can look back to the

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records like we did the voting records and

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it appears they didn't we had more

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Republicans on maybe not this last year

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but in the past what we've had since

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and that that's uh if you go back

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and look at that and also we've asked

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for the uh

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records on who was on these boards and

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when their expiration,

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their terms expired.

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And according to the state,

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they're required to be on a staggered

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board.

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Okay, your time is up, sir.

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Thank you.

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Thank you, Max.

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Added to the forum?

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I'll waive my time this morning.

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Okay, thank you all.

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I assume, Mr. Hardaway,

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you've had time to review the minutes of

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the February meeting,

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so could I have a motion to approve,

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please?

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Good.

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Motion to approve the minutes.

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I'll second that.

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All those in favor say aye.

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Aye.

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Thank you.

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And also the claims and payroll.

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Make a motion to accept.

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Thank you.

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I'll second that.

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All those in favor say aye.

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Aye.

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All right.

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Stephanie Roche.

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County Clerk, please come forward.

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We have a vacancy on the Gibson Township

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Provider Board due to the death of Dorothy

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Wiener.

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The Democratic Party Chair did miss the

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deadline,

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the early day deadline to make that

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appointment.

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So it leads it up to the executive

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body to do how our son, Damon,

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is interested in the appointment.

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And I have checked his voting history,

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but this is a Democratic seat vacancy.

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And he is eligible to be appointed by

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He is here today.

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Do you have any questions for him?

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I'd just like to say I appreciate you

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stepping up and simply for your loss of

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others, very,

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very important people in our lives,

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honestly.

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I think it says something about you,

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willing to step up and fill that vacancy

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that she occupied for so many years.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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This time I'll ask for a motion to

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approve Damon Fleener from the position of

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advisory board, Gibson Township.

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I'll make that motion.

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Do you have anything to say though?

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No,

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I appreciate your words there on my end.

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I just thought it would be an honor

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to continue to work for the township.

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So I will swear by then today and

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have him complete his economic statement,

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and then I will receive the approved

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minutes sent to me.

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So if you want,

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you can go see through and make the

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next meeting.

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Yeah, we got a motion on the floor.

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I'll second that.

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All those in favor, say aye.

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Aye.

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Aye.

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All right.

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Countywide bridge inspection and

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inventory.

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If I could, Don.

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Yes, sir.

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Come forward.

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There won't be a dollar amount in there.

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This would just be credentials.

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So just read off the interested parties

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and then I'll take them for scoring.

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Official name, okay.

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Aegis.

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Jansen in spawns engineering.

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American structure point.

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H-M-B.

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And that's all.

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I believe we need a motion to accept

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these.

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Is that correct, Mr. Boyles?

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I believe so, yes.

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I'll make a motion to accept all bids

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received from the bridge inspection

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inventory.

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The four-year bridge inspection cycle and

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this, no matter who we select,

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they'll all get paid the same amount.

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This is just a copy of their credentials

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and who we want to choose to use.

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So we'll go through these and use the

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inbound scoring process and then make our

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selection and announce it probably at the

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next meeting.

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Okay, I'll second that.

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All in favor say aye.

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Aye.

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Thank you.

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Motion carried.

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Okay.

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Mr. Paul Lechter,

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would you like to come forward and give

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us an update on the County Highway

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Department project?

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Thank you for having me.

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In the last couple of weeks,

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the weather kind of did break for us.

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There in the office,

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the electrical and the county IT has been

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rough-in to start it from where we're at.

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We've been asked to frame in a little

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closet by Phil and Rick Wolf and a

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couple of little minor add-ons on the

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inside to help the flow,

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help the path of the electric and the

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IT materials.

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The sign shed out there has got metal

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completely around it.

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They were working on the,

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they had a spray foam done on the

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inside.

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They were working on the liner panel for

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the roof and the walls on the inside

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of it also.

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So as soon as they get that done,

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the electrical plumbing will be started

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there.

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I'm supposed to have a meeting with the

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electrician today to discuss those items.

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The big long truck link tube,

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it's drained metal on the ceiling,

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metal on the roof sides,

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the iron panel on the interior is

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installed and it is ready now for the

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electrical to get going on it.

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fuel shed, an end frame,

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metal on the inside.

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Rick and I did tweak one of the

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interior items where instead of it being

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metal,

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we have plywood so they can nail and

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hang and get those items better, I'll say,

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on the inside.

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The mechanics garage,

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We're still working through the vertical

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code issue we got out there with firewall.

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We've got one item solved there,

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trying to get the last one solved where

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they, I'll say, keep hazardous materials.

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So we are talking to the state about

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that last item and we'll get them to

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decide one way or the other what we

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need to do.

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salt building and salt storage buildings

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uh i'm getting rebar here this week it's

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going to come about three different loads

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thursday or wednesday thursday friday the

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state i think he has sent the foundation

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to the state this week which foundation

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permits pretty quick turnaround so

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somebody's got to turn around start with

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the foundations for it here in the last

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couple weeks we also did uh install some

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drainage on the parking lot

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and at the detention basin.

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And we also built a road on the

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south side for Duke Energy for all access

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to the telephone phones.

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As you've been out there lately,

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you've seen that the state came through

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and did their clearing between the fence

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and the bypass that you all requested.

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I guess it's pretty well done,

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except for right in the fence itself.

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Jackson County REMC.

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I believe they've started their extension

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from Martinburg Road over to the property.

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I think they're using Corey Baker with

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that.

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He's a subcontractor.

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They have started bringing in the fiber

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optic.

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It looks a lot better now since they

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cleared all that brush up there.

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It's beginning to shape up.

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You are pretty much on schedule with our

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timeline, are you not?

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Yes.

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That's great.

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We're just waiting on those company items,

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which is a state issue.

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Just got to work through that to get

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it over the timeline.

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What is the timeline?

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we did break this you know it's two

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pages the office the sign shed the link

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to the fuel station stage one the

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mechanics garage the salt building

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All right.

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Keep up the good work.

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Thank you.

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Mr. Boyle.

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I don't believe I have anything for you

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today.

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Okay.

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motion to adjourn I'll make that motion